[00:07.9 – 00:15.1] Going to do is determine where I’m going to have to cut that tape, so I’m going to temporarily place the document inside it. [00:15.1 – 00:21.7] What I’m going to do is come across the bottom with two-sided tape. [00:21.7 – 00:32.1] I [00:32.1 – 00:32.7] can move… [00:32.7 – 00:36.4] Remember, the, the, the document is not secured yet, so I can move it around. [00:36.4 – 00:44.9] So I’m just going to come across the bottom of the document, or, uh, the item, and I’m gonna put the two-sided tape. [00:44.9 – 00:48.9] Uh, another nice thing to have is a tape dispenser. [00:48.9 – 00:51.8] This is not a good way to do it, believe me. [00:51.8 – 00:53.3] Get a good tape dispenser. [00:53.3 – 00:54.7] Where would you find them? [00:54.7 – 00:56.2] School supplies. [00:56.2 – 01:07.9] I’ve [01:07.9 – 01:09.3] gone ahead and cut the tape. [01:09.3 – 01:19.8] We’re going to go up the other side, and [01:19.8 – 01:24.0] note that I’m folding the ends of the tape each time. [01:24.0 – 01:32.0] And the reason I do that is, is if you don’t, and you have to pull the dadgum tape off of Mylar without a folded end, it’s tough to do. [01:32.0 – 01:35.8] Do look for tape dispensers. [01:35.8 – 01:37.4] Go to a school supply place. [01:37.4 – 01:42.0] You can put it, uh, roll in like so, and you just pull it off, pull it down, it cuts itself. [01:42.0 – 01:50.7] So what I’m going to do is put this Mylar on the other side of the opening. [01:50.7 – 01:58.8] Now, I will not press the top down because remember, this is going to be a trifold. [01:58.8 – 02:06.0] So I’m gonna figure out, with this closed, where is going to be the best place to cut that tape. [02:06.0 – 02:09.8] And I determined about two-thirds of the way up. [02:09.8 – 02:14.6] I’m gonna go ahead and cut the two-sided tape. [02:14.6 – 02:16.8] We can pull that off. [02:16.8 – 02:17.8] Let’s get rid of it. [02:17.8 – 02:19.3] We don’t need it anymore. [02:19.3 – 02:23.8] And we’ll trim the other piece on the bottom. [02:23.8 – 02:25.9] We don’t need it anymore. [02:25.9 – 02:35.9] Now what we’ve got is one other thing, and I, and just so long as I don’t touch [02:35.9 – 02:38.2] that document, I’m on pretty good shape. [02:38.2 – 02:38.7] Here it is. [02:38.7 – 02:46.8] And what we are going to do is actually take and pull the two-sided tape off of there. [02:46.8 – 02:56.5] Now, remember, when we encapsulated the item, we’ve got a corner there, and we don’t wanna do one until we get them both pulled up. [02:56.5 – 03:01.6] So I’m going to lift the vertical piece of tape cover. [03:01.6 – 03:06.1] It just wants to be difficult, that’s all. [03:06.1 – 03:12.8] And I’m going to lift the horizontal piece of tape cover. [03:12.8 – 03:17.3] I’ll pull it off, I’ll pull it off, and I will lay this down. [03:17.3 – 03:22.8] And what we’ve got basically is a trifold. [03:22.8 – 03:29.5] And I call that a- The beautiful part of it is, is I can get in there and pull the document out. [03:29.5 – 03:34.8] So you make these little envelopes. [03:34.8 – 03:35.6] Sure. [03:35.6 – 03:36.2] Little- Sure. [03:36.2 – 03:37.6] I call it a trifold. [03:37.6 – 03:38.3] Yeah. [03:38.3 – 03:39.5] Call it that, really. [03:39.5 – 03:42.6] Very difficult to pronounce. [03:42.6 – 03:43.3] And there it is. [03:43.3 – 03:52.7] Gaylord and University Products both make, uh, pre- pre-made, uh, little envelopes that you can use also, if you don’t wanna go through the trouble. [03:52.7 – 03:54.3] Remember, you pay for the labor, though. [03:54.3 – 03:55.2] Yeah. [03:55.2 – 03:56.2] I know. [03:56.2 – 03:56.2] Yeah. [03:56.2 – 03:56.7] See, that’s it. [03:56.7 – 04:02.4] You can buy this stuff, but the way we started out with the little piddly budget we had, we couldn’t do it. [04:02.4 – 04:05.0] Anybody have any questions? [04:05.0 – 04:07.7] What would you do if you have three holes… [04:07.7 – 04:10.7] I mean, five holes in a, in a, in a pamphlet? [04:10.7 – 04:19.7] I don’t know of any that have five holes, but I know of some, like a magazine, where I did two sets of three holes. [04:19.7 – 04:24.3] Saturday Evening Post, I actually did three holes here and three holes here. [04:24.3 – 04:24.9] Oh, okay. [04:24.9 – 04:24.9] Yeah. [04:24.9 – 04:27.9] And I sewed each one independently in the spine. [04:27.9 – 04:33.1] Because if you do just one big one, that’s a lot of cord hanging out there, so you do two. [04:33.1 – 04:35.3] Do you seal the top in any way? [04:35.3 – 04:36.5] No. [04:36.5 – 04:37.1] No. [04:37.1 – 04:37.5] No. [04:37.5 – 04:40.2] It sounds like you have it permanently, temporarily, so- No. [04:40.2 – 04:40.2] No. [04:40.2 – 04:40.9] No. [04:40.9 – 04:41.3] You don’t close it there. [04:41.3 – 04:42.4] You leave it open like that. [04:43.2 – 04:45.7] This is stuff that’s very, very seldom handled. [04:45.7 – 04:51.1] Be honest with you, this has got to go back to Minnesota. [04:51.1 – 04:51.2] Yeah. [04:51.2 – 04:54.0] Minnesota is where it’s gotta go. [04:54.0 – 05:00.7] Uh, this was last year’s project that we finally finished up, so we’ll get it done and we’ll get it back to them. [05:00.7 – 05:06.1] Apparently, this was hanging on an old shack, and it even had a little cord that it was hanging from- Oh … [05:06.1 – 05:07.3] on a little hook on the wall. [05:07.3 – 05:10.1] So we saved the, uh, the little piece of cord. [05:10.1 – 05:11.6] I’ll let him do with that. [05:11.6 – 05:21.2] Um, that’s the end of the encapsulation, and that’s the end of the trifold. [05:21.2 – 05:23.7] We talked about the Philly folders. [05:23.7 – 05:26.7] Philly folder is probably the simplest. [05:26.7 – 05:32.2] The actual folder with interleaving buffered bond is even simpler. [05:32.2 – 05:32.8] Mm-hmm. [05:32.8 – 05:38.6] So you can see where we can progress from item to item to item. [05:38.6 – 05:40.5] Yes. [05:40.5 – 05:43.2] Now, you can make a cover for a book, wouldn’t you? [05:43.2 – 05:45.9] The trifold method to the folder flap on it. [05:45.9 – 05:50.9] How many use the Gaylord covers for dust jacket covers for your books? [05:50.9 – 05:53.6] We can make it out of Mylar polyester. [05:53.6 – 05:57.9] Again, there’s where a large cutting mat comes in handy. [05:57.9 – 05:59.8] I think I better back it up. [05:59.8 – 06:01.1] Uh, yeah, we better. [06:01.1 – 06:01.9] Yeah. [06:01.9 – 06:06.6] What he talked about is we’ll take a small break, and then we’re gonna go ahead and- We tape them- … [06:06.6 – 06:07.8] run that set of slide… [06:07.8 – 06:07.9] Well. [06:07.9 – 06:09.0] Do we tape them a little first? [06:09.0 – 06:11.4] 330 to go to five. [06:11.4 – 06:12.8] I don’t know if there’s enough tape there. [06:12.8 – 06:14.2] You can go ahead and look and see. [06:14.2 – 06:14.9] Okay. [06:14.9 – 06:15.5] See what’s here. [06:15.5 – 06:16.2] All right. [06:16.2 – 06:17.3] Let’s take a small break. [06:17.3 – 06:18.5] Okay? [06:18.5 – 06:23.4] Thank you. [06:23.4 – 06:25.6] Talking about the little tape loops on air conditioners. [06:25.6 – 06:26.6] Um- Do you use those? [06:26.6 – 06:28.5] And they’ll- We’re either gonna do tape removal … [06:28.5 – 06:28.8] just walk over. [06:28.8 – 06:29.6] They’re wonderful. [06:29.6 – 06:31.5] Or- They’ll suck more air through. [06:31.5 – 06:34.7] And you build a booth, and my booth is actually like so. [06:34.7 – 06:44.7] And I can do a whole newspaper sheet on that thing, or I can do a little p- tiny thing, a little pamphlet, or I can use a, you know, [06:44.7 – 06:46.4] a, a magazine, you know. [06:46.4 – 06:48.8] And you’re gonna advantage the little positive pressure- Sure … [06:48.8 – 06:49.4] to keep it on there too. [06:49.4 – 06:50.0] Sure. [06:50.0 – 06:52.7] If you ever run short on those, we got them by the ton down there. [06:52.7 – 06:55.1] I need your name, address, and phone number. [06:55.1 – 06:56.4] I’ll leave you mine in the car. [06:56.4 – 06:57.0] Please. [06:57.0 – 07:01.2] And write something on it about- Yeah, yeah, I’ll make a note right now. [07:01.2 – 07:07.0] Do you do- You always, especially, um, when you talked about the dunking process for bookkeeper, for the books. [07:07.0 – 07:07.5] Yeah. [07:07.5 – 07:08.7] Dunking an entire book. [07:08.7 – 07:12.2] Do you take the book apart, the binding and- I would not do it. [07:12.2 – 07:14.9] Not dump or not do it anymore? [07:14.9 – 07:16.9] I wouldn’t do it if it were me. [07:16.9 – 07:17.3] Just spray. [07:17.3 – 07:18.3] That’s just a personal… [07:18.3 – 07:19.6] That’s just, uh, thread. [07:19.6 – 07:24.6] You can get it in the, uh, in the, uh, catalogs back there. [07:24.6 – 07:24.7] You… [07:24.7 – 07:26.8] There’s a whole spool of it right in front of him. [07:26.8 – 07:27.7] Okay. [07:27.7 – 07:28.6] There’s a whole spool of it. [07:28.6 – 07:30.9] Do you recommend that spray, right? [07:30.9 – 07:33.5] If it were me, I would go ahead and just, uh… [07:33.5 – 07:39.4] I’ve done so much of this stuff that it’s quicker for me, rather than go- We’ve got a wonderful slideshow we’re gonna show you. [07:39.4 – 07:42.7] But there’s a couple– there’s one thing that I wanna mention to you. [07:42.7 – 07:52.8] One of the things that Bob told me is that our suggestion to you is go to your local historical organization, [07:52.8 – 07:58.1] wherever you are in your city, and ask them if you can intern with them. [07:58.1 – 07:59.4] Ask them if you can help them. [07:59.4 – 08:02.4] Ask them if they need your help. [08:02.4 – 08:13.3] Because the things that you learn here, you can share with them, and the things that they have, they can share with you, and you both work hand-in-hand. [08:13.3 – 08:21.4] A, a direct result of that is become a, I became the archivist for my city, and it’s been the most wonderful venture that I’ve had other than AA in my life. [08:21.4 – 08:27.2] So my suggestion is ask if you can use your talents out there other than just AA. [08:27.2 – 08:29.2] We’re all very talented people. [08:29.2 – 08:35.1] We’re all clean, sober, wonderful individuals, and we get a chance to do more than we did before. [08:35.1 – 08:38.1] The name of the game in that… [08:38.1 – 08:39.8] Is this thing working okay? [08:39.8 – 08:40.2] Yeah. [08:40.2 – 08:46.1] The name of the game in that is people love to have grunts around because grunts do the work. [08:46.1 – 08:46.8] Yeah. [08:46.8 – 08:48.9] And I don’t care whether it’s a university. [08:48.9 – 08:51.0] Like, is anybody here from Colorado? [08:51.0 – 08:53.8] They have a wonderful, wonderful university. [08:53.8 – 08:56.7] Great three or four-month course. [08:56.7 – 08:57.9] What’s that? [08:57.9 – 08:58.6] Colorado. [08:58.6 – 09:00.6] Denver. [09:00.6 – 09:03.2] Anyway, there are other places. [09:03.2 – 09:13.7] If, if there, if there is anybody from Washington, DC, your chances of doing an internship at National Archives or the Library of Congress, I’ve done [09:13.7 – 09:14.4] both. [09:14.4 – 09:17.9] You will get invaluable assistance. [09:17.9 – 09:23.3] If you have large libraries in your area, volunteer. [09:23.3 – 09:24.4] Get down and see them. [09:24.4 – 09:26.0] Let them know you’re interested in history. [09:26.8 – 09:29.7] Does it mean you might be sweeping the floor every now and then? [09:29.7 – 09:37.7] Probably, but that’s no big deal because the amount of training you’ll get is just, you can’t put a value on it. [09:37.7 – 09:47.7] The best thing that I can say about that is, is if you will volunteer to do the work, let them know that you would like to have training [09:47.7 – 09:52.6] in the field of conservation, and I guarantee you they will be vitally interested. [09:52.6 – 10:01.5] Especially if you can go to a historical society, or in my case, I worked with the Arkansas State History Commission, and I’m there every day. [10:01.5 – 10:07.1] So, uh, you get inve- just training that money can’t buy. [10:07.1 – 10:13.1] So, uh, there is a catalog, uh, after this is over with. [10:13.1 – 10:16.3] I tell you what, let me just give you some numbers. [10:16.3 – 10:23.6] This is where you can reach me, and rather than have to write it 15,000 times, I’d rather just give you the number and y’all write it down. [10:23.6 – 10:27.3] My home number in Arkansas, both of them are area code 501. [10:27.3 – 10:33.3] The home number is 851-3451. [10:33.3 – 10:37.5] The number at the History Commission is also 501. [10:37.5 – 10:41.1] The number is 682-6905. [10:41.1 – 10:46.8] There was a question asked whether or not that I do the internet. [10:46.8 – 10:56.8] No, Faye and I don’t do that because right now we have so much material on the computer that [10:56.8 – 11:02.4] we do not– until we can prote– we’ve got it protected almost all the way. [11:02.4 – 11:10.6] And now when we get things in, we really have to screen, and we don’t wanna be caught up with getting a virus and losing everything. [11:10.6 – 11:13.2] So that’s why I don’t fiddle with the internet right now. [11:13.2 – 11:14.7] It isn’t that I dislike it. [11:14.7 – 11:15.8] I don’t believe in it. [11:15.8 – 11:16.9] Quite the contrary. [11:16.9 – 11:19.6] I think it’s a very quick way of communicating. [11:19.6 – 11:24.4] It’s a big thing to do it– I think we talked about it, what, four or five times today. [11:24.4 – 11:26.4] Let’s all communicate with each other. [11:26.4 – 11:32.5] We talked about a whole lot of archival procedures today in the field of restoration. [11:32.5 – 11:35.2] This is truly restoration. [11:35.2 – 11:37.9] There’s an aw- an awful lot of conservation work done. [11:37.9 – 11:48.0] Uh, the history behind this thing, a, uh, 80-year-old– 80, 81-year-old, uh, ex-librarian, retired librarian, uh, in Indianapolis, [11:48.0 – 11:56.2] Indiana, uh, went to take his trash to a dumpster, one of them big Dempsey dumpsters in the apartment complex. [11:56.2 – 12:01.1] And when he threw the door open, he looked in, and he’s just a little tiny guy. [12:01.1 – 12:03.6] He looked in there, and he saw this book. [12:03.6 – 12:07.3] Well, you know, librarians don’t like to see books in dump- dumpsters. [12:07.3 – 12:12.5] So he got, uh, some sort of a box, and then he put a, an overturned can. [12:12.5 – 12:21.5] Anyway, he got in the dumpster and got the book, and he says, “Oh yeah, that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s one of them ANA books.” It was a red covered book. [12:21.5 – 12:31.5] He opened it up, and he looked at it, and he was, uh, a native of Chicago area at one time, and he knew [12:31.5 – 12:36.8] where the telephone number, and he knew the person whose name was in that book. [12:36.8 – 12:42.6] So that book ended up– and the way he sent it, you know these little cheapy mailers? [12:42.6 – 12:45.2] He just dropped it in the mail- -and sends it up there. [12:45.2 – 12:52.1] Now what are the chances of that book wending its way to a sanctioned archive and not being ripped off in the process? [12:52.1 – 12:54.5] God intended for that book to be there. [12:54.5 – 12:56.0] God intended for it. [12:56.0 – 12:57.4] There’s no doubt in my mind. [12:57.4 – 13:00.8] This is of the book. [13:00.8 – 13:03.6] Another reason for wearing gloves. [13:03.6 – 13:06.2] Somebody talked about latex gloves. [13:06.2 – 13:07.2] Yeah. [13:07.2 – 13:08.2] I don’t remember. [13:08.2 – 13:16.2] Do not discount them because when you see the filthy mess that we got– When I got it in the mail, I wouldn’t even touch it. [13:16.2 – 13:26.3] I grabbed the stuff, I grabbed the, the material, I put it back in a room where we go ahead and debug and delouse and de-everything, and [13:26.3 – 13:28.5] I used latex gloves in handling it. [13:28.5 – 13:30.4] I wouldn’t even ruin a pair of cotton gloves. [13:30.4 – 13:32.5] And, uh, it stayed in there. [13:32.5 – 13:34.2] How do you debug a book? [13:34.2 – 13:36.0] Well, we use moth flakes. [13:36.0 – 13:37.4] Absolutely wonderful. [13:37.4 – 13:45.3] I put the book, I put it in a bag, put a bunch of moth flakes in there and seal it up, and I guarantee you the bugs are dead. [13:45.3 – 13:48.6] How many times have you gone to an old building? [13:48.6 – 13:58.8] We recently, uh, uh, obtained an entire collection of a group in North Cen– or, uh, Mid-Central Arkansas we [13:58.8 – 14:02.1] didn’t even know was associating with Louisiana. [14:02.1 – 14:05.6] They were always going to the, uh, what is it, Tri-City? [14:05.6 – 14:06.3] Tri-State. [14:06.3 – 14:07.2] No, Tri-State. [14:07.2 – 14:09.1] They were going to Tri-State Convention. [14:09.4 – 14:13.1] Plus they were also mixing with a southeast Arkansas group. [14:13.1 – 14:23.0] We don’t know who they were yet, but when we opened the building up, the pigeons had pooped from the rafters, and- Oh … [14:23.0 – 14:27.0] the lady said that all the AA stuff is in them two boxes. [14:27.0 – 14:27.7] Right underneath. [14:27.7 – 14:32.8] So we had to take and get the stuff off, put it in a box, bring it home. [14:32.8 – 14:36.3] We carried, uh, latex gloves with us. [14:36.3 – 14:44.4] We carried bags with us, and before we would even put it in the car, I put it up on the racks, what I did on top of my van. [14:44.4 – 14:49.5] And uh, that stuff stayed like that for I don’t know how long before we could ever get to it. [14:49.5 – 14:52.5] This book was equally as dangerous. [14:52.5 – 14:54.1] Now why would you do that? [14:54.1 – 14:59.2] Wasn’t it the last time when I had the severe eye infection? [14:59.2 – 15:02.0] The last, last uh, seminar. [15:02.0 – 15:03.7] Last archives seminar. [15:03.7 – 15:10.2] You can get some very bad skin conditions from this old stuff, so please, please be careful. [15:10.2 – 15:17.7] Some of you are medically qualified to back me up, but you can get, uh, pretty bad shape, so be real careful. [15:17.7 – 15:20.5] I had rather extensive work done on my eyes, so. [15:20.5 – 15:22.2] Yeah. [15:22.2 – 15:27.5] I read in, in Preservation that they’re studying right now… [15:27.5 – 15:32.8] Remember the witch burnings, and they said the girls were speaking weird and Sure … [15:32.8 – 15:35.7] That they were also, they had a hold of… [15:35.7 – 15:45.9] Well, I guess we had a lot of moisture, and the books that came with them and everything, and they were very moldy, and they’re saying that that mold, the mold from moldy [15:45.9 – 15:48.5] books was possible cause- Mm-hmm … [15:48.5 – 15:52.8] of these youngsters talking really weird and that they had been possessed. [15:52.8 – 15:53.3] Mm-hmm. [15:53.3 – 15:55.6] The mold is dangerous too in books. [15:55.6 – 15:56.1] Thank you. [15:56.1 – 15:56.7] Thank you. [15:56.7 – 15:57.0] Very moldy. [15:57.0 – 15:59.6] I have to add to that, and this is very important. [15:59.6 – 16:00.2] I’m glad to… [16:00.2 – 16:02.9] And I know we’re a little bit behind, but kind of bear with me. [16:02.9 – 16:06.5] Drunks smoke when they- Mm-hmm … [16:06.5 – 16:11.0] read old books, especially the first, second, third, f- all those first-edition books. [16:11.0 – 16:14.3] The tobacco was so powerful at that time. [16:14.3 – 16:18.1] We had a lot of cigar smokers and a lot of pipe smokers. [16:18.1 – 16:20.7] Joe McWahney, has anybody seen the big book study? [16:20.7 – 16:24.3] Did you ever watch him puffing on his pipe doing the big book study? [16:24.3 – 16:28.8] I wish you coulda seen the tobacco I took out of that book of his. [16:28.8 – 16:28.9] Mm-hmm. [16:28.9 – 16:29.7] I’ve got his book. [16:29.7 – 16:34.5] And anyway, that stuff can make you really rotten. [16:34.5 – 16:36.8] You know, skin irritations and everything else. [16:36.8 – 16:38.3] So please be careful. [16:38.3 – 16:39.8] Use latex gloves. [16:39.8 – 16:46.5] And, and you saw that Hake brush that we were talking about putting, uh, Whito liquid on. [16:46.5 – 16:52.1] It’s also very, very soft and very, very gentle, so you can brush all that stuff out of the spine. [16:52.1 – 16:53.7] You just go through it page by page. [16:53.7 – 16:57.4] Okay, this is the entire story. [16:57.4 – 16:59.6] I, I wish I had taken a package… [16:59.6 – 17:05.5] I’m sorry, a uh, photograph of the package that it came in. [17:05.5 – 17:08.0] It was so filthy it had stained through the paper. [17:08.0 – 17:17.8] As you can see, that’s a first-edition, first-printing book. [17:17.8 – 17:23.1] As you can see, I wish I had my laser pointer, but I don’t, you’ll see some black material there. [17:23.1 – 17:25.4] That had actually eaten through. [17:25.4 – 17:28.7] I don’t know what got on that book, probably from the dumpster. [17:28.7 – 17:30.2] Maybe from battery acid. [17:30.2 – 17:32.9] I don’t know, but you’ll see the black material. [17:32.9 – 17:34.0] Am I in your way? [17:34.0 – 17:35.0] Yeah. [17:35.0 – 17:35.2] Yeah. [17:35.2 – 17:36.5] Can you turn that down a little? [17:36.5 – 17:38.6] If you can do that, that’ll help out. [17:38.6 – 17:40.3] Me over here? [17:40.3 – 17:48.1] Yeah, there’s one over here by that light. [17:48.1 – 17:50.1] Ah. [17:50.1 – 17:52.3] Perfect. [17:52.3 – 17:52.3] Yeah. [17:52.3 – 17:52.7] How’s that? [17:52.7 – 17:56.1] Good. [17:56.1 – 17:56.5] Okay. [17:56.5 – 18:00.6] The white was some foreign substance. [18:00.6 – 18:05.5] I’m not too sure it wasn’t something that we sniff up our nose, and I’ll be honest with you, that’s why… [18:05.5 – 18:06.1] I’m serious. [18:06.1 – 18:08.5] You don’t know what this stuff is. [18:08.5 – 18:09.9] This come out of a dumpster. [18:09.9 – 18:10.5] Can I sit here? [18:10.5 – 18:11.5] Sure. [18:11.5 – 18:11.9] Okay. [18:11.9 – 18:16.7] This’ll give you a better idea of what that book looks like. [18:16.7 – 18:17.7] Mm-hmm. [18:17.7 – 18:19.6] Good one. [18:19.6 – 18:22.1] Now you can see it’s very badly bloated. [18:22.1 – 18:26.2] You can also see that this was a challenge and a half. [18:26.2 – 18:33.1] Uh, you wonder what you would do with a book like that. [18:33.1 – 18:38.4] I recently restored one not quite this bad, and I kid you not. [18:38.4 – 18:41.1] Have you ever opened up a book and it slammed shut? [18:41.1 – 18:43.1] Oh, dear. [18:43.1 – 18:46.1] I kid you not, that was a first-edition, first-printing book. [18:46.1 – 18:48.0] I opened it up, and it slammed shut. [18:48.0 – 18:49.7] Why am I saying that? [18:49.7 – 18:51.1] It had never been read. [18:51.1 – 18:52.1] Oh. [18:52.3 – 18:53.5] Yet it was rotted. [18:53.5 – 18:54.9] That’s heartbreaking. [18:54.9 – 18:56.5] And why are we here? [18:56.5 – 19:02.0] We’re, we’re, we’re here, hopefully, to make sure that our archival material doesn’t get in this condition. [19:02.0 – 19:05.6] Okay, these are just some shots of it. [19:05.6 – 19:11.6] Another shot of it, and you can see how badly bowed and bloated that book is. [19:11.6 – 19:13.2] It’s very, very bloated. [19:13.2 – 19:19.0] Now we’re starting to really see just how bad it is. [19:19.0 – 19:22.4] You can see the cover, the end sheet, the white paper … [19:22.4 – 19:24.7] I better get up there by it. [19:24.7 – 19:33.8] Uh, the white paper was actually pulling away from the board itself, and that was through all the chemicals. [19:33.8 – 19:39.3] This was the cover, this right here, and it had pulled away from the board. [19:39.3 – 19:43.0] You can see the material, how rotted it was. [19:43.0 – 19:48.5] You can see the staining, and this is how we found out where this book came from. [19:48.5 – 19:51.3] We were able to sa- save that. [19:51.3 – 19:55.3] Uh, why would we … [19:55.3 – 19:57.6] You know, several people have asked about books. [19:57.6 – 20:00.7] This is one of the reasons it gives you a lot of history. [20:00.7 – 20:05.1] This book found its way to Indianapolis, Indiana, and out back there with Lawrence. [20:05.1 – 20:08.2] Now you can really see the damage. [20:08.2 – 20:09.4] There’s the board. [20:09.4 – 20:10.7] There’s the end sheet. [20:10.7 – 20:13.5] Look at the rot down inside that book. [20:13.5 – 20:18.5] Starting to take it apart. [20:18.5 – 20:20.1] We have to get the cover off. [20:20.1 – 20:23.5] There’s the one board with no material at all on it. [20:23.5 – 20:25.1] This was so bad. [20:25.1 – 20:28.2] This was my next challenge. [20:28.2 – 20:38.6] The only way that I can do it is to clean up the spine because we gotta find out how badly damaged it was, uh, done, uh, the damage that was done in the spine itself. [20:38.6 – 20:45.1] You’ll also see something, probably coffee or drink or something, I don’t know, right up in here. [20:45.1 – 20:49.0] You’ll also see mold and mildew on the page edges. [20:49.0 – 20:54.3] Please remember the looks of this book because you’re gonna see the finished subject when we’re done. [20:54.3 – 20:55.4] Am I in your way? [20:55.4 – 20:57.1] No, you’re fine. [20:57.1 – 21:04.9] This is where I’m starting to clean the text itself. [21:04.9 – 21:11.2] As you can see, we’re starting to scrape that stuff off little by little by little. [21:11.2 – 21:21.4] Uh, all of this had to be broken down to see just [21:21.4 – 21:23.1] what was usable. [21:23.1 – 21:26.8] We did not want to lose the page with the writing. [21:26.8 – 21:28.2] It’s over there somewhere. [21:28.2 – 21:34.1] And the rest, we made a decision, my colleague and I, to not lose any more of the book. [21:34.1 – 21:42.8] Whether we had to, uh, you know, fix it up as best we could and have an ugly page in there, we made the decision to do it. [21:42.8 – 21:49.8] Now what we’re doing, we’re actually finding out the size of the old boards. [21:49.8 – 21:51.5] These are parts of the cover. [21:51.5 – 21:52.6] I call them boards. [21:52.6 – 21:58.6] And the reason being is I’ve gotta make a board that will fit that book. [21:58.6 – 22:03.8] When you measure these things, measure it, put it up. [22:03.8 – 22:09.0] The following day, measure again because I guarantee your measurements will … [22:09.0 – 22:11.7] God has a funny sense of humor. [22:11.7 – 22:18.6] He seems to want us to struggle on things, and if you go back the following day, you’ll measure a little bit of difference. [22:18.6 – 22:28.6] And there, what I, what I’m doing is measuring from here over to the other side because there’s a big spinal area in there [22:28.6 – 22:33.4] that’s gonna make a difference as to how you put that book back together again. [22:33.4 – 22:37.6] And mind you, I’m not using old, soft, rotted material. [22:37.6 – 22:39.3] It’s gonna be brand-new material. [22:39.3 – 22:41.0] I’ve located red material. [22:41.0 – 22:43.5] In fact, I’ve located most all that material. [22:43.5 – 22:52.7] What I’m doing here is actually cleaning out in the text itself. [22:52.7 – 22:57.0] Some of my government work. [22:57.0 – 23:00.0] I didn’t even know that was there. [23:00.0 – 23:03.2] I must, must have been, I must have took a l- a break during lunch hour. [23:03.2 – 23:10.6] Anyway, I’m actually cleaning out the spine there, and if you look real close, you will actually see the stitching of this book- Mm-hmm … [23:10.6 – 23:13.2] all the way down. [23:13.2 – 23:16.5] Did anybody look on this table and see a little curved … [23:16.5 – 23:18.7] Uh, does everybody know what a suture needle is? [23:18.7 – 23:21.5] A doctor would know, to stitch you up a little bit. [23:21.5 – 23:23.0] I use them all the time. [23:23.0 – 23:30.0] And the reason I use them all the time is I may have to go back in and add a little support, so I will suture these. [23:30.0 – 23:35.3] Pages are put together in sections, or they legally call them signatures. [23:36.3 – 23:43.1] so I might have to suture signatures or sections back together again, or to strengthen them. [23:43.1 – 23:53.2] Okay, once I’ve got that book apart, once I’ve got the signatures done, [23:53.2 – 24:03.3] then the next thing I’m going to have to do on a book that bad is, how many have worn a shirt, and worn a shirt, and worn a shirt, and worn a shirt [24:03.3 – 24:05.6] until there’s no body left in it? [24:05.6 – 24:08.8] What do you do to put body back in that shirt? [24:08.8 – 24:09.8] Size. [24:09.8 – 24:10.0] Sizing. [24:10.0 – 24:17.1] You can’t see the container, but there’s a container of Knox gelatin up there. [24:17.1 – 24:17.6] Oh. [24:17.6 – 24:20.4] And I’m actually applying Knox gelatin. [24:20.4 – 24:27.0] You can see it, the difference between dry and wet, and I had to do page by page by page. [24:27.0 – 24:32.9] Lone Endeavor, I think that was the first edition, first printing in the last story, was it not? [24:32.9 – 24:33.7] Yes. [24:33.7 – 24:35.8] Yeah, and, and I don’t think- I think that was … [24:35.8 – 24:36.6] that was the only time. [24:36.6 – 24:41.2] Okay, when you add Knox gelatin to a book, what do you add? [24:41.2 – 24:45.0] It’s a food group, and if you add a food group, what’s it going to invite? [24:45.0 – 24:45.6] Bugs. [24:45.6 – 24:47.0] Hey, bugs, come on. [24:47.0 – 24:47.9] Put me here. [24:47.9 – 24:55.3] So you’re gonna have to, when you’re done with something like this, is make sure that it’s in a secure place, in a safe, okay? [24:55.3 – 24:56.7] Or a good area. [24:56.7 – 25:03.5] So what I’m doing is actually putting Knox gelatin on those pages. [25:03.5 – 25:07.2] As you can see, some of the pages were still attached. [25:07.2 – 25:12.1] What mixture would you have for your Knox gelatin? [25:12.1 – 25:17.2] Knox gelatin is just you, it tells you what to do, one package to one quart of water. [25:17.2 – 25:19.3] Follow the directions on the package. [25:19.3 – 25:27.7] Uh, by the way, don’t use strawberry, lemon, lime. [25:27.7 – 25:28.6] Please don’t. [25:28.6 – 25:30.8] They have unflavored Knox gelatin. [25:30.8 – 25:33.4] I really made a bad mistake. [25:33.4 – 25:43.7] I did a workshop, uh, up in Chicago area, and a lady called me about two weeks after I come back and, and she said, “My, my item turned green,” [25:43.7 – 25:46.5] and she had used lime flavored Knox gelatin. [25:46.5 – 25:48.2] Great. [25:48.2 – 25:50.4] That’s how we can go astray, you know? [25:50.4 – 25:54.9] It wasn’t an important document, so thank God that it, it could’ve been worse. [25:54.9 – 25:59.4] As you can see, a lot of these had to be bathed. [25:59.4 – 26:03.7] Now let me talk about that, and I’m sorry we ran out of time today. [26:03.7 – 26:09.2] I bathe my documents in between sheets of window screen. [26:09.2 – 26:12.1] Now, is it like the window screen on your windows? [26:12.1 – 26:15.0] No, absolutely not. [26:15.0 – 26:16.9] Nylon window screen. [26:16.9 – 26:19.0] Never use metal window screen. [26:19.0 – 26:28.1] Nylon window screen, I make a solution, a bath, a large container, and in it is warm water and, uh… [26:28.1 – 26:31.2] Orvus liquid? [26:31.2 – 26:32.1] Orvus liquid. [26:32.1 – 26:32.5] Orvus liquid. [26:32.5 – 26:37.5] If women have really, really delicate clothing, they will hand wash things. [26:37.5 – 26:40.6] It’s the same Orvus liquid, O-R-V-U-S. [26:40.6 – 26:42.9] Wonderful to bathe things with. [26:42.9 – 26:49.0] The reason I could do that, and you can see the difference between the quality of that paper and what you saw before. [26:49.0 – 26:50.8] Almost every page was damaged. [26:50.8 – 27:00.8] Okay, what I’m trying to do now is the areas that had to be tissued back together again, remember, this book’s got to be [27:00.8 – 27:02.3] put back together again. [27:02.3 – 27:04.8] So I had to take… [27:04.8 – 27:07.3] There’s some of your little, uh, tile weights. [27:07.3 – 27:11.5] I put, uh, uh, felt on the top and the bottom. [27:11.5 – 27:18.3] There’s some of the little glass weights that we talked about. [27:18.3 – 27:28.5] I’m still doing more tissue repair on more, uh, signatures or sections. [27:28.5 – 27:33.0] I’m getting towards the front of the book here. [27:33.0 – 27:34.7] You can tell by the title page. [27:34.7 – 27:40.2] Uh, don’t go to your archives looking like this. [27:40.2 – 27:50.3] Uh, I had the opportunity, and I worked for the federal government for many years, and it’s not very good, uh, story for the federal government [27:50.3 – 27:53.3] to be doing things on federal government time. [27:53.3 – 27:56.7] There’s a story behind it, and it was perfectly legal. [27:56.7 – 28:00.3] If I worked overtime, the following day I had the rest of the afternoon off. [28:00.3 – 28:05.2] So I’d go down to the History Commission and do the work, and that’s why I’m dressed like this. [28:05.2 – 28:15.4] Okay, what I found was, is some old cord and some old yucky, uh, uh, PVA glue, which I’m actually taking off with that lifting [28:15.4 – 28:16.4] knife over there. [28:16.4 – 28:18.0] I’m getting it out of the way. [28:20.8 – 28:23.1] Now what I’m doing is tissue repair. [28:23.1 – 28:26.0] You can see where I’ve done a little tissue repair back here. [28:26.0 – 28:31.6] I just do all the repair, and then I go back and do all the trimming rather than one-page trim. [28:31.6 – 28:34.0] Do all the repair and then go back. [28:34.0 – 28:35.6] So I’m doing the tissue repair. [28:35.6 – 28:37.9] We can do nothing about this. [28:37.9 – 28:42.1] I told you that you could take stains and rust out of paper with diethylformamide. [28:42.1 – 28:47.6] The chances of it coming out in this case are nil, so please don’t even try. [28:47.6 – 28:49.9] You’ll just make a stain more ugly. [28:49.9 – 28:58.7] Uh, I found it necessary to go ahead and, uh, take some of the stuff. [28:58.7 – 29:06.6] I, I was, uh, short that day, that month, and I was short of time, and I was trying to do some work at the, uh… [29:06.6 – 29:08.5] What do you do when you go on displays? [29:08.5 – 29:18.6] I take some work with me because if I’ve gotta sit there and babysit the archives display, I carry some materials, and those always go with me, [29:18.6 – 29:20.5] and I’ve done that for a good many years now. [29:20.5 – 29:21.9] You can get a lot of work done. [29:21.9 – 29:29.3] And another thing, too, going back to the people, seeing what you’re doing, I guarantee you that intrigues the heck out of them. [29:29.3 – 29:31.0] They see their money at work. [29:31.0 – 29:33.2] They actually see their money at work. [29:33.2 – 29:38.1] We did that down in Louisiana when I come down to do the area assembly, didn’t we? [29:38.1 – 29:38.5] Yeah. [29:38.5 – 29:41.2] Okay. [29:41.2 – 29:44.3] I told you that we made our own presses. [29:44.3 – 29:47.1] You can do local purchase and local manufacture. [29:47.1 – 29:49.6] This is not one that you make. [29:49.6 – 29:54.6] This is one of those, uh, university product, 70-some-odd dollar things. [29:54.6 – 30:04.6] Well, we’ve learned that rather than buying these hi- high-dollar items, we can just go get a couple of pieces of two-by-four, a couple of long, long bolts, a couple of wing nuts, [30:04.6 – 30:09.7] washers, and whatnot, and drill holes through them, and we can make our own little clamps like this. [30:09.7 – 30:13.1] This is actually being held between two tables. [30:13.1 – 30:17.3] Why I, um… [30:17.3 – 30:18.2] Let me back up. [30:18.2 – 30:20.3] The reason I’ve got it in a clamp… [30:20.3 – 30:24.3] I am going the wrong way. [30:24.3 – 30:30.7] Ah, come on. [30:30.7 – 30:35.8] You guys might go down to the lobby. [30:35.8 – 30:37.6] Were you sewing the spine now? [30:37.6 – 30:39.9] No, absolutely not. [30:39.9 – 30:41.0] Not going to… [30:41.0 – 31:05.1] Okay. [31:05.1 – 31:17.0] What I’m doing there is you can look at the, uh, PVA glue, which actually builds [31:17.0 – 31:18.0] up the spine. [31:18.0 – 31:22.3] All this is old rotted glue, and it has to be taken off. [31:22.3 – 31:24.0] What do we take it off with quick? [31:24.0 – 31:25.0] We used it today. [31:25.0 – 31:27.0] Methyl cellulose. [31:27.0 – 31:29.7] Thick methyl cellulose. [31:29.7 – 31:35.7] Never, never, never watery, ’cause the water will run down into the text, and you don’t wanna do that. [31:35.7 – 31:41.7] We go ahead, and we saturate the, uh, the, uh, uh, spine area. [31:41.7 – 31:51.9] Note that I’ve got wax paper between the text and the board, and it’s laying over the side because sometimes it’ll stick to the board, [31:51.9 – 31:53.2] so be real, real careful. [31:53.2 – 31:56.0] Anyway, I put it on. [31:56.0 – 31:56.9] We go upstairs. [31:56.9 – 31:58.8] There’s another old book that I’m working on. [31:58.8 – 32:00.3] That was an old, uh, legal book. [32:00.3 – 32:05.5] Anyway, uh, we go upstairs and maybe have a cup of cappuccino or something. [32:05.5 – 32:13.2] We come back 10, 15 minutes later, and we c- can take a lifting knife or a spatula and actually scrape all this stuff off. [32:13.2 – 32:15.6] Okay. [32:15.6 – 32:25.6] When we have the text, the spine clear, we actually have to take and anchor in before we can put [32:25.6 – 32:27.3] the rest of the support on. [32:27.3 – 32:29.3] Note that the spine is clean. [32:29.3 – 32:30.9] The spine is clear. [32:30.9 – 32:34.3] All the cords are in pretty good shape. [32:34.3 – 32:39.6] I’ve got those end sheets and facing sheets that we had to throw away. [32:39.6 – 32:41.2] They have to be put on. [32:41.2 – 32:51.8] So I’m using natural adhesive or PVA glue, and I’m making a little bead, and you can see it there, and I’ve got the paper [32:51.8 – 32:57.7] that I’m actually slipping in there in that little line of glue. [32:57.7 – 33:01.2] That’s a folded-over sheet of paper, which will be the front-