I have done this a few times, and the first time we did it, we decided over the phone that we'd have to come up with an agenda. And we called each other back a month later, I said, have you got an agenda? And he said, no, I thought you were doing it. So then we met the night before for dinner up in Minneapolis, and I said, so what's the plan? And he said, I thought you had the plan. And then all we could decide at dinner was that I would go first. So then the next time, he was going to go first. So we got there and he started out and introduced himself, and then he said, and Sandy's going to go first. And so, as you can see, I don't seem to be making any progress in this situation. But this is something I have looked forward to, because I don't know why I get such a kick out of doing stuff with Bob. I just look forward to the reaction back and forth. We played golf today. I make you look good. Oh yeah, you make me look good. I need a lot of help in that area. And so anyway, I know it's going to be a lot of fun. The spiritual focus of AA is the topic that's in the program. And so in trying to set the stage for that, sometimes you hear about the spiritual part of AA. Well, there is no non-spiritual part. It's all spiritual. Everything in here is the attempt to get us to move from the material world to the spiritual world. And to unlearn a lot of old ideas, which are the ideas of how to succeed in the material world. And that may produce success in the material world, but it does not produce happiness. And since most people are struggling to be happy, and those rules don't work, then it's time to examine them and go, you know, our definition of insanity. Keep doing the same thing, expecting different results. If I'm not happy with $10,000 in the bank, then I'll be happy with $20,000 in the bank. And then you get that in the bank, and then you go, well, geez, that doesn't work. Maybe I need to get married, and maybe I need the kids. Blah, blah, blah, blah. It…