Joe M. — Archival Correspondence on Conference Recordings and Tape Preservation — Date Unknown

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Well, Bill, this is Joe M. again, and I'll finish this, finish up this little bit of tape by talking about this past, oh, I believe it's a good three and a half hours of recording on here, on 178, it starts off with this Jack F., introducing this Jimmy H., this Jimmy H. is a colored fellow, friend of mine from the Evans Avenue Group, that's an interracial group in Chicago, been on the program a good, oh, I'd say at least eight, nine years or so, gives a pretty good talk there, besides him, becoming sober there, he also quit smoking, and he became a vegetarian, and grew himself a beard, and lost about 20 pounds, and looks better and feels better and everything else, this guy's in his forties there, and good AA, and carries the message whenever possible, this second guy, Ross S., I was caught flat footed on this here, I didn't know that he was going to record this down in front of the platform there, because he has a series of charts that he talks, that his talk is based on, and he more or less had one of those walking mics that he carried around, and he walked from one end to the other end, in front of the platform there, while going through his talk there, and I had to pick it up from the above speakers, however, I do have another talk by this guy, where he talked at an open meeting in Hobart, Indiana, which is clear, if you would like that, but this did come out pretty good, I think, this last fellow, Jack F., he's a friend of mine, in fact, I'm going to have him talk at a meeting in Union Grove, Wisconsin, it's a state prison farm, and I think that his talk will more or less get these guys thinking that, that are in there, that their trouble is due to alcohol, and that by doing something about it while they are in there, that they more or less will be able to straighten their lives when they get on the outside, and try to stay on the straight and narrow, and stay away from places like that, this comes up to Arbutus's talk, in fact, she made a very good talk there, and I believe you will be surprised how clear these recordings are, with the exception of this Ross S., I have her marked on the box where she talks, in case you want to get to hear her first, I don't know exactly how I'll fix it up, I'll type it all out, and put it on the back cover, incidentally, this is the tape that I got from you, which was recorded four hours on each side, I don't know if you've had any experience on this quarter track recording here, you can either more or less keep it this way, or record what you want your own way, but all my tapes are recorded on this quarter track, on three and three quarter inches per second, I don't know if I mentioned it or not, that this tape that you sent me, eight hours of recording, what I did, I took it to a friend of mine in Hammond, Indiana, who is also a tape bug, has about eight recorders, I don't know if I told you about this or not, and he's got three machines set up to record fifteen inches per second, so what we did, we took your copy there, and set up a couple other machines with twenty four hundred foot tapes on there, and proceeded to record it, and it took us a little bit over two hours to record eight hours of recordings, and it came out on three and three quarter inches per second, however, I still have not had time to listen to those recordings.

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Before I forget, on the second side, I'll put this Nick K. from South Bend, Indiana, who gives a pretty good talk, but I have another talk that he made in Rock Island, Illinois, which lasted about an hour and twenty minutes, and it's a very good talk, and he don't repeat himself too much, or he don't repeat himself at all, rather, he always makes the talk very interesting. Followed by him will be Beth K. from the General Service Office in New York, and Glenn C. of Detroit, Michigan, you said that you wanted him, and I will try to squeeze in Judge John Murtaugh, in other words, it will be a half of the Saturday night session, and that should make it pretty close to full tape, besides my yacking on here.

It should be just about, just about make it full, and on your third track, I'll give you the balance of the Saturday night session. The Sunday morning session, which, well, the Sunday afternoon session, which lasted from twelve to one, and one to one-thirty or so, it's about an hour and a half session, and that will be two and a half hours, and I think I will be able to squeeze in Walter O. on that side, leaving the last side for this Dr. Bob's talk, and maybe something else that I can give you that I don't think you have, or, well, we'll wait until we get to that part there.

Now, I would like to talk a little bit about these tapes that I have from Toronto, or the General Service Conference, if I can find my lists over here, I will let you know which ones I do have, so that, in case you want to give me some of them, that they would not be repeated. Starting on the first side, I have this first one, which is F1, eight to nine-thirty a.m., Alcaton A.A. meeting. I have F4, ten to ten-thirty p.m., panel, A.A. and the courts, which I believe is Judge Murtaugh, I haven't had a chance to listen to it, but I think that his talk in Toronto is more or less about the same talk that he gave here in Chicago for us.

I also have F5, ten-thirty to twelve-thirty p.m., panel, sponsorship and the primary purpose. The next one that I have is F9, two-thirty to four-thirty p.m., panel, A.A. and the clergy. I have F10, two-thirty to four-thirty p.m., panel, A.A., panel, the public looks at A.A. I also have F14, eight to ten-thirty p.m., English general session at the Maple Leaf Garden. In fact, I have all the general sessions there, Friday night, Saturday night, and Sunday afternoon.

I have ten-thirty to twelve-thirty p.m., panel, A.A. and education. And I have A.A. and the medical profession, that's S10. And the other two are those general sessions, S16 and SU1.

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Now, if you'd want to give me any of these other ones, with the exception of the French sessions, which I do not understand French, so it would not be any benefit to me. However, this tape exchanging bit, I don't have to rush into it. I more or less am a little behind yet, but I'll catch up, and I'm very sorry to make you wait as long as I did for these here recordings of the conference. But I'm sure that they are well worth waiting for, because they are very clear, and what you don't understand about these sessions, Arbutus might fill you in, but it was one of the best conferences that we've had in the past seven years.

We have had them at this McCormick place six years, and the first conference was held in a different part of Chicago. It was recorded by a good friend of mine, now deceased. I have copies of that, but somehow or other, whether it was the acoustics or something, it didn't come out as good and as clear as these conferences that I had recorded. However, I will try to more or less talk on about these different tapes that I do have, and try to fill you in, and what you can do is keep this copy for referring to the tapes that I have.

I am very glad that when I first started this recording business here that I did decide to number the boxes and keep some sort of track of these tapes here. Now, I have them all written in a couple books where I can just refer to a book and find a tape in a matter of a couple of minutes. I know other people that you ask them for a tape, it takes them more or less a week to find, and that I don't have to do.

I am just wondering, when you make these tapes for these different people, how do you work it? Do you just charge them for the tape, or do you charge them for your time, or what? Because, you know, you make up 50 or 100 of these here tapes for these different people there, and it knocks the hell out of you and keeps you pretty busy, and I myself have to back away from these recorders and slow down and take some rest and do something else.

Otherwise, it will just about drive you goofy if you are at these machines day in and day out. You have to do something else besides stick with your recorder. Besides, I like to monitor when this is at fast speed, and my wife doesn't like this yackety-yack in here, so I more or less plug an earphone that I have hanging on the wall, and if I'm close to the recorders, I can hear how it's recording. Each and every year, about springtime, I take my recorders and have them fixed up.

This one I'm talking on, I had to have a new head assembly and other parts put in it to bring it back to A1 condition. Hell, that cost me about 30-some dollars. So, in making these copies for other people there, the money I get, it doesn't even pay for my time, but it does pay for these here overhaulings that I have to make on my machines.

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Well, I see this tape is getting kind of low. I can't seem to talk about anything else at the present time. So, I will be signing off, and as I told you of the next speakers on this side too, and yesterday I was in a place, one other thing, yesterday I was in a place where I buy my tapes. It's Allied Radio Corporation of America, a store that sells tapes pretty reasonably, and I seen that wall and sack with four speeds there. I was more or less thinking of getting another recorder, but if I do get another recorder, it will be with a faster speed, with that 15 inches per second. In other words, I'll have the speeds 1 7 8's, 3 3 quarters, 7 and a half, and 15 inches per second. I don't care for that any slower speed than 1 7 8's. I more or less, whenever recording, I do not have any lower speed than 3 3 quarters, but I find that recording on 3 3 quarters using a 2400 foot reel when you're making the recording works pretty well, and I more or less try to make all these copies for these different people on 2 track and 3 3 quarter inches per second. That way, if a person would like to borrow this copy out to someone, you could more or less always find someone who got a 2 track machine, although now I see that they're switching it around and making 4 track tape recorders, but still a 2 track will play, you just have to raise the volume up a little bit. So I'm just about all talked out now, and I will talk on the other side of the tapes that I have. One other thing, there is one tape, AA and Industry, which I will be getting from another AA who bought this session in Toronto, so you can check that one off, it's the one I've got. What I mentioned before about this Dennis M. and this Dr. Bob, if it is different than the one you have, I would like to have that. So, flip this over to the other side, to the top track, which is track 4, and it will start off at 1 7 8 inches per second. I more or less forgot to tell you to switch your machine over after I got through talking at the beginning, but I believe you had heard the difference in sound, so I believe you changed your speed and got to hear this program okay. So, say hello to Arbutus for me, and once again that I would like to thank her personally for the lovely talk that she made here, and who knows, may run into her somewhere again one of these days. Incidentally, I did get a talk from this guy, Don O., in Madison, Wisconsin, where she talked at the Detroit Conference, and her talk was a little bit different there, but not as good as the one she had made in Chicago. So, that's it, Bill. Bye for now, and flip this over on the other side when you have time, and for your listening pleasure, I will give you about another three or three and a half hours on this second track of this 2400 foot tape. So, bye for now, and well, that's about all.

God bless you, and I hope to hear from you.

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In the near future. Bye now.