Bill W. — 2nd Talk — Dallas, TX, February 1951 (Transcript)

Bill W. — 2nd Talk — Dallas, TX, February 1951 (Transcript)

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[00:00:13.000 – 00:00:23.100] My dear friends of Dallas, of Texas, and of this great Southwest land, it is with

[00:00:23.100 – 00:00:33.100] an emotion quite indescribable that I bring you greetings and congratulations from your brother and

[00:00:33.100 – 00:00:35.600] sister A.A.’s everywhere.

[00:00:35.600 – 00:00:38.500] And everywhere for A.A.

[00:00:38.500 – 00:00:48.400] is now a lot of territory, for we can be found from Scandinavia to South Africa.

[00:00:48.400 – 00:00:56.100] Meetings are going on from Alaska to Australia.

[00:00:56.100 – 00:01:06.100] Tonight, A.A.’s look up at the Southern Cross, and they look up at the

[00:01:06.100 – 00:01:06.900] North Star.

[00:01:06.900 – 00:01:17.500] I wish every one of them could share the love and the hospitality

[00:01:17.500 – 00:01:28.000] which is radiated out to me and to all us outlanders from you of Dallas and this marvelous state

[00:01:28.000 – 00:01:29.100] of the Lone Star.

[00:01:29.100 – 00:01:37.800] On behalf of us all who are your visitors, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

[00:01:37.800 – 00:01:47.800] For fifteen years now, you and I have been watching

[00:01:47.800 – 00:01:50.000] a great building under construction.

[00:01:50.000 – 00:01:54.200] To us, it is much more than a building.

[00:01:54.200 – 00:01:56.300] It is a temple.

[00:01:56.300 – 00:02:06.800] It is a cathedral of the spirit into which well over 100,000 of us have already entered, and therein

[00:02:06.800 – 00:02:14.100] have found a peace and a freedom that in other days we never could have dreamed.

[00:02:14.100 – 00:02:24.800] Tonight, we shall see that we are approaching the completion,

[00:02:24.800 – 00:02:34.900] in a structural sense, of our cathedral, although let us hope that its great floor expands to accommodate

[00:02:34.900 – 00:02:45.000] the million yet to come, and that its traditional sidewalls contain us all in unity for so long as God shall want

[00:02:45.000 – 00:02:45.200] it.

[00:02:45.200 – 00:02:55.500] So now I think I would like to take each of you by the hand and lead you back to the days of our beginning,

[00:02:55.500 – 00:03:05.800] and with you enter that first dim trail which during our infancy

[00:03:05.800 – 00:03:16.300] widened out into a path trod by a few, and finally into this broad highway which men call

[00:03:16.300 – 00:03:17.600] Alcoholics Anonymous.

[00:03:17.600 – 00:03:27.800] And as we pass along that course, I would like to indicate to you those

[00:03:27.800 – 00:03:37.900] great hours of realization that we have taken together, and those great hours of decision that have so deeply affected the

[00:03:37.900 – 00:03:39.700] destiny of this society.

[00:03:39.700 – 00:03:46.300] And that will bring us to where we now stand together tonight.

[00:03:46.300 – 00:03:56.600] And then you and I will try to lift the veil of the future a little to see what that might hold for this beloved fellowship.

[00:03:56.600 – 00:04:02.600] When you stop to think about it, A.A.

[00:04:02.600 – 00:04:12.600] has been a series of realizations and discoveries and decisions which we have all

[00:04:12.600 – 00:04:13.200] shared.

[00:04:13.200 – 00:04:23.300] My mind goes back to the first one that I had, which had an important bearing on this society

[00:04:23.300 – 00:04:24.100] to come.

[00:04:24.100 – 00:04:34.100] It was the day I lay in a drying-out place in the summer of 1934, and for

[00:04:34.100 – 00:04:44.300] the first time I knew that I was utterly hopeless, that I was possessed of a devilish obsession

[00:04:44.300 – 00:04:54.300] which condemned me to drink against my will, and an increasing bodily sensitivity that assured that I

[00:04:54.300 – 00:04:55.500] would go mad or die.

[00:04:55.500 – 00:05:03.100] Indeed, I was in the grip of a greater power, and he was John Barleycorn.

[00:05:03.100 – 00:05:12.100] Well, you see, that realization of hopelessness later turned out to be the very cornerstone of our A.A.

[00:05:12.100 – 00:05:12.800] program.

[00:05:12.800 – 00:05:23.700] You read it in that first step, “Our lives became unmanageable,” and such was my case in the summer of 1934.

[00:05:23.700 – 00:05:28.800] But I did not share this realization alone, happily.

[00:05:28.800 – 00:05:31.600] I had a partner in it.

[00:05:31.600 – 00:05:34.000] I speak of Lois, my wife.

[00:05:34.000 – 00:05:37.900] I just spoke with her on the phone.

[00:05:37.900 – 00:05:41.100] She sends you all her great love.

[00:05:41.100 – 00:05:51.500] Well, in that very hour of my own darkness, she had her own, because she was sitting downstairs

[00:05:51.500 – 00:05:53.700] with a certain Dr.

[00:05:53.700 – 00:06:02.000] Silkworth, later himself to play an important part in the destiny of this society.

[00:06:02.000 – 00:06:07.500] And that saintly old gentleman was telling her of my condition.

[00:06:07.500 – 00:06:17.400] And like many another wife before and since, she was asking the eternal question: Why can’t he get well?

[00:06:17.400 – 00:06:19.500] He has wanted to for years.

[00:06:19.500 – 00:06:21.800] Why doesn’t his willpower work anymore?

[00:06:21.800 – 00:06:26.000] Oh, tell me, doctor, why is all this?

[00:06:26.000 – 00:06:36.300] And of course, the good man, as gently as he could, said, “Well, this whole malady, this whole disease,

[00:06:36.300 – 00:06:46.700] is something still wrapped in a great deal of mystery, but we do know that the habit of drinking in some people becomes a compulsion, an obsession,

[00:06:46.700 – 00:06:57.100] and finally, a veritable insanity which condemns its victims to drink in spite

[00:06:57.100 – 00:07:07.100] of their will and against their best interests.” And Lois, like many another wife sharing

[00:07:07.100 – 00:07:11.600] this realization, said to the doctor, “And doctor, what does this mean?

[00:07:11.600 – 00:07:22.800] How serious is thi- is this?” And the gentle old man had to tell her, “Well, when he first came here, I

[00:07:22.800 – 00:07:33.400] thought he might be one of those rare few who could be re-educated out of his malady, who with a better understanding

[00:07:33.400 – 00:07:35.100] might get a fresh grip on life.

[00:07:35.100 – 00:07:37.300] But Mrs.

[00:07:37.300 – 00:07:47.300] Wilson, I fear that he is like all, nearly all the others who’ve come this way over the years, and like all of those others who have gone this

[00:07:47.300 – 00:07:50.400] same way over the centuries past.

[00:07:50.400 – 00:08:00.500] I fear now that his obsession is too deep, that it cannot be broken.” And again, Lois pleaded, “But doctor, what does

[00:08:00.500 – 00:08:04.200] that mean?” And you know what he had to say.

[00:08:04.200 – 00:08:13.300] He had to let her know that I would have to be locked up somewhere unless soon I would go mad or die.

[00:08:13.300 – 00:08:23.400] So that was the realization that she shared with me, as many a wife has shared

[00:08:23.400 – 00:08:30.200] with her mate time out of mind, and even in the days since AA.

[00:08:30.200 – 00:08:40.600] Now, that realization of hopelessness, paradoxically enough, lies at the very root of our success,

[00:08:40.600 – 00:08:41.400] as you all know.

[00:08:41.400 – 00:08:46.300] What was the next realization of great moment?

[00:08:46.300 – 00:08:55.400] Well, it was the realization on the part of a friend who thought he had an answer that I might need his help.

[00:08:55.400 – 00:09:05.600] So a friend came to me, even as friends have since come to you, hoping that they could

[00:09:05.600 – 00:09:06.400] be helpful.

[00:09:06.400 – 00:09:09.100] This was an old schoolmate.

[00:09:09.100 – 00:09:10.900] I hadn’t seen him for years.

[00:09:10.900 – 00:09:21.000] Since I had learned a good deal about this malady by then, I had long since tabbed him as a hopeless one like

[00:09:21.000 – 00:09:21.400] me.

[00:09:21.400 – 00:09:23.600] Here he was in New York, sober.

[00:09:23.600 – 00:09:25.200] He was on the telephone.

[00:09:25.200 – 00:09:26.700] I said, “Come over.

[00:09:26.700 – 00:09:28.000] We’ll drink.

[00:09:28.000 – 00:09:38.500] And we will talk about the good old days.” Oh, what great force there was in that, uh, unconscious observation.

[00:09:38.500 – 00:09:41.100] We’ll talk about the good old days.

[00:09:41.100 – 00:09:43.900] Why would we talk about the good old days?

[00:09:43.900 – 00:09:48.300] Because for us, the future was un- unbearable.

[00:09:48.300 – 00:09:51.600] The present was unbearable.

[00:09:51.600 – 00:09:52.900] There was no future.

[00:09:52.900 – 00:09:59.600] That’s why we would live in the past, he and I, over that crock of gin on my kitchen table.

[00:09:59.600 – 00:10:06.400] So soon, like many a friend has come since, he’s looking across the table at me.

[00:10:06.400 – 00:10:12.700] Somehow I sensed that he was not just on the water wagon.

[00:10:12.700 – 00:10:14.000] Something had happened.

[00:10:14.000 – 00:10:16.200] He told me he didn’t want a drink.

[00:10:16.200 – 00:10:21.000] I said, “Are you on the water wagon?” He said, “Oh, no, I’m just not drinking.”

[00:10:22.800 – 00:10:32.900] “Well, come,” said I, “What’s got into you?” And he looked at me and he said, “I’ve got religion.” Well, for a lusty agnostic like me,

[00:10:32.900 – 00:10:34.500] that was a terrible disappointment.

[00:10:34.500 – 00:10:36.700] I felt horribly let down.

[00:10:36.700 – 00:10:41.100] I said, “My God, my poor friend has got religious insanity.

[00:10:41.100 – 00:10:43.200] It takes the place of alcoholic insanity.

[00:10:43.200 – 00:10:48.900] Too bad.” So I said, “Well, come now.

[00:10:48.900 – 00:10:55.700] Uh, tell me what brand of religion is this?” He said, “Why, I, I wouldn’t call it religion exactly.

[00:10:55.700 – 00:10:58.000] Uh, just common sense.

[00:10:58.000 – 00:10:58.900] Nothing new about it.

[00:10:58.900 – 00:11:01.700] But for me, it did do the trick.

[00:11:01.700 – 00:11:12.000] I feel as though my obsession had been taken away from me.” He said, “I feel that I have been released.” Strange statement

[00:11:12.000 – 00:11:13.600] for a man on the water wagon to make.

[00:11:13.600 – 00:11:15.100] No, this was something different.

[00:11:15.100 – 00:11:17.700] “Well,” I said, “what’s the formula?

[00:11:17.700 – 00:11:27.800] Tell me.” And so then he gave me the elements, which today lie at the core of our procedure in AA,

[00:11:27.800 – 00:11:31.300] and he put them in very simple language.

[00:11:31.300 – 00:11:35.100] Old ancient principles, old as the hills.

[00:11:35.100 – 00:11:42.300] Said he, “By contact with a certain group of people, I picked up these ideas.

[00:11:42.300 – 00:11:44.000] They emphasize them.

[00:11:44.000 – 00:11:45.300] Certainly there’s nothing new.

[00:11:45.300 – 00:11:50.600] I got honest with myself about my own defects.

[00:11:50.600 – 00:11:54.600] I quit this living alone.

[00:11:54.600 – 00:11:57.300] I talked out my defects with another person.

[00:11:57.300 – 00:11:58.400] I made a confession.

[00:11:58.400 – 00:12:06.800] I made a list of the people I’d harmed and visited them, and made what amends and restitution I could.

[00:12:06.800 – 00:12:15.500] And I learned about a new kind of giving, at least new to me, the kind of giving that demands no reward.

[00:12:15.500 – 00:12:26.800] I was told that I ought to try to help other people without any demand for prestige or material consideration.” Now

[00:12:26.800 – 00:12:36.800] he said, “I know you’re awful gun-shy on this religious stuff.” He said, “I’m not a guy with any theology or anything, but” he said, “I do

[00:12:36.800 – 00:12:47.400] believe in God, God as I understand Him.” And he said, “In order to make this simple program work in my life, I

[00:12:47.400 – 00:12:57.700] found it necessary to pray to whatever God there was as I understood Him.” Such was my friend’s message to me, and such has this message

[00:12:57.700 – 00:13:00.100] in its essence been ever since.

[00:13:00.100 – 00:13:11.900] As simple as that, and yet in the hands of another alcoholic, capable of penetrating and

[00:13:11.900 – 00:13:17.200] healing as those ancient verities never healed alcoholics before.

[00:13:17.200 – 00:13:26.100] The secret was, of course, that one alcoholic was talking to another, so what he said struck me deep.

[00:13:26.100 – 00:13:34.300] Indeed, he lived in my sense, had lived in my strange world, but now I saw that he had been taken out of that world.

[00:13:34.300 – 00:13:36.000] His sanity had been restored.

[00:13:36.000 – 00:13:46.900] Fortunately, he didn’t try to evangelize me or pressure me or save my soul, as desirable as that could

[00:13:46.900 – 00:13:49.300] have been and probably would still be.

[00:13:49.300 – 00:13:52.700] He finally took his leave.

[00:13:52.700 – 00:13:57.100] Well, I went on drinking.

[00:13:57.100 – 00:14:07.200] I, in those days, I was on a bottle of gin a day to be teed up, and two and three a day when I got tight, which was pretty

[00:14:07.200 – 00:14:08.700] often.

[00:14:08.700 – 00:14:11.000] Lois was at work in her department store.

[00:14:11.000 – 00:14:15.800] I was pretty rough on the great Wall Street guy, she now being the provider.

[00:14:15.800 – 00:14:20.000] You guys here understand that, some of you.

[00:14:20.000 – 00:14:22.000] So I sat in that kitchen.

[00:14:22.000 – 00:14:30.500] I kept right on drinking several days, but in no waking hour could the thought of my friend leave me.

[00:14:30.500 – 00:14:41.200] In no waking hour could I expel those principles from my mind he had advocated.

[00:14:41.200 – 00:14:47.000] And yet I rebelled at the God concept.

[00:14:47.000 – 00:14:49.600] How could one get that?

[00:14:49.600 – 00:15:00.100] But at length, I came to the same conclusion you fellows have, and you gals who have been in this extremity.

[00:15:00.100 – 00:15:05.600] I said to myself, “After all, who are beggars to be choosers?

[00:15:05.600 – 00:15:15.700] I am a doomed one, and if I had cancer, if carcinoma was my trouble,

[00:15:15.700 – 00:15:26.400] I would gladly place myself in charge of any physician there was who could exorcise those hellish cells.” And is not this thing alcoholism

[00:15:26.400 – 00:15:33.200] a cancer of the body, a cancer of the emotions?

[00:15:33.200 – 00:15:38.500] And yes, if there be such a thing, is it not a cancer of the soul?

[00:15:38.500 – 00:15:43.600] So if there be any great physician, you had better seek him out.

[00:15:43.600 – 00:15:52.400] So with that realization, I took the decision, as you have since, to go to the hospital and get dried up.

[00:15:52.400 – 00:16:00.900] Incidentally, uh, being kind of a conservative damn Yankee, I, uh, didn’t want to have any of this Down South shoutin’ religion, you know.

[00:16:00.900 – 00:16:03.800] So I, uh, went up to the hospital.

[00:16:03.800 – 00:16:13.400] Like all other drunks on their way to be cured for the last time, I got tight as a tick and came in there waving a bottle and shouting at the doctor I had something.

[00:16:13.400 – 00:16:16.000] He said, “Well, I’m afraid you have, my boy.

[00:16:16.000 – 00:16:25.500] You better get upstairs and go to bed.” So I went just upstairs and I went to bed, and in three days I was all free of alcohol sedation.

[00:16:25.500 – 00:16:28.400] See, I’d gone a month early before the DTs caught up with me.

[00:16:28.400 – 00:16:38.700] When suddenly one morning, a day I was feeling mighty low, in

[00:16:38.700 – 00:16:40.400] the door there stood my friend.

[00:16:40.400 – 00:16:43.500] Well, I hadn’t seen him for years.

[00:16:43.500 – 00:16:46.300] I know he was hard up.

[00:16:46.300 – 00:16:50.700] There he was, way uptown New York, early in the morning, seeing me.

[00:16:50.700 – 00:17:00.800] I thought, as you have since thought, “This man practices what he preaches.” Then I got a little scared he’d evangelize me,

[00:17:00.800 – 00:17:02.400] turn on that sweetness and light button.

[00:17:02.400 – 00:17:06.200] Oh, no, he’s cagey, just like we’ve learned today.

[00:17:06.200 – 00:17:09.900] Said, “Just came up to pay you a visit, Bill.

[00:17:09.900 – 00:17:11.300] Heard you were up here.

[00:17:11.300 – 00:17:21.700] Hope I can be of a little help.” But still he didn’t tell me what that formula was again, that prescription for recovery from alcoholism.

[00:17:21.700 – 00:17:22.600] He waited.

[00:17:22.600 – 00:17:24.400] He made me ask him.

[00:17:24.400 – 00:17:26.500] “What is it, Ebby?

[00:17:26.500 – 00:17:30.100] How do you do this again?” “Oh, well, it’s simple,” said he.

[00:17:30.100 – 00:17:31.400] “You get honest with yourself.

[00:17:31.400 – 00:17:34.800] You talk it out with another in confidence.

[00:17:34.800 – 00:17:38.200] Make a confession, holding back nothing.

[00:17:38.200 – 00:17:43.600] You look around at the damage you’ve done other people and go and make restitution.

[00:17:43.600 – 00:17:54.400] You try to be helpful to other folks without any demand for a reward, and you pray to whatever God there is, and that’s all there is to it, period.” And

[00:17:54.400 – 00:18:03.700] he said, “If you can really come to the decision to try that, even though you got no faith, I, I think, uh, maybe it’ll help you.

[00:18:03.700 – 00:18:09.300] It did me.” So he talks about the weather and a few friends, and off he’s gone again.

[00:18:09.300 – 00:18:12.000] Sounds very familiar.

[00:18:12.000 – 00:18:13.700] It’s happened a lot of times since, hasn’t it?

[00:18:13.700 – 00:18:17.400] One alcoholic talking to another.

[00:18:17.400 – 00:18:25.300] One alcoholic reaching us at depths that no other human being has ever been able to plumb.

[00:18:25.300 – 00:18:28.000] So there it was.

[00:18:28.000 – 00:18:35.600] Well, the rebellion went on, this God business.

[00:18:35.600 – 00:18:40.700] I began to get more and more depressed.

[00:18:40.700 – 00:18:44.900] I finally sunk into an utter blackness.

[00:18:44.900 – 00:18:55.000] I was a child, alone, hopeless, crying in the dark.

[00:18:55.000 – 00:19:05.000] And at last, in desperation, I said, “Well, now,” just like a cancer

[00:19:05.000 – 00:19:15.100] patient, “I will do anything to get well, anything to be rid of this fateful thing.” And then I said, “If

[00:19:15.100 – 00:19:24.200] there is a God, will He show Himself?” At once it seemed to me that room lighted up in a great bright light.

[00:19:24.200 – 00:19:30.900] I was caught up into an ecstasy for which there is no description.

[00:19:30.900 – 00:19:41.200] The overwhelming thought came, “You’re a free man.” And in the mind’s eye, it seemed as though I suddenly stood on a mountain,

[00:19:41.200 – 00:19:44.900] and around me is a great wind blowing.

[00:19:44.900 – 00:19:50.200] Not of air, a wind of God.

[00:19:50.200 – 00:19:54.000] The grace of God.

[00:19:54.000 – 00:19:58.900] And I knew I was a free man.

[00:19:58.900 – 00:20:04.800] I don’t know how long I was in this singular state.

[00:20:04.800 – 00:20:08.000] At length it subsided.

[00:20:08.000 – 00:20:12.000] Of course, I still lie on the bed is where I was.

[00:20:12.000 – 00:20:17.500] But now, seemingly, I am in a different world.

[00:20:17.500 – 00:20:23.500] And a great peace steals over me.

[00:20:23.500 – 00:20:26.700] I feel as one with the universe.

[00:20:26.700 – 00:20:36.900] And my first cogent thought was, “So this is the God

[00:20:36.900 – 00:20:45.500] of the preachers.” Thus came to me in a great flash, in a catechism-

[00:20:45.600 – 00:20:55.800] The realization that there was a God, that He was at hand, and that His grace could do for me

[00:20:55.800 – 00:20:58.200] what I could not do for myself.

[00:20:58.200 – 00:21:09.300] Well, that realization, which I then had, has since been shared with

[00:21:09.300 – 00:21:14.000] tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of us, if we include our families.

[00:21:14.000 – 00:21:19.200] And I hear some of you saying, “Well, I didn’t have any hot flash like that guy Bill.

[00:21:19.200 – 00:21:23.900] I think he was a little mopus at the time.” Yes, you have.

[00:21:23.900 – 00:21:33.900] The identical thing has been given you, a gift of grace by which you are able to do that which you couldn’t before.

[00:21:33.900 – 00:21:44.100] And in most cases, it has come to you in a week, in a month, in three months, in some

[00:21:44.100 – 00:21:46.300] cases belatedly in several years.

[00:21:46.300 – 00:21:56.600] But has it not come, that indefinable something, that contact with that higher power, that

[00:21:56.600 – 00:22:01.800] once we make ready for Him, does for us what we cannot do for ourselves?

[00:22:01.800 – 00:22:05.500] So there was another cornerstone realization.

[00:22:05.500 – 00:22:10.800] And with this realization, I took the decision that any of you would have taken.

[00:22:10.800 – 00:22:19.200] I thought this is a matter of thing of great power, these simple prin-principles in the hands of one alcoholic talking to another.

[00:22:19.200 – 00:22:26.300] Utterly simple, yet with great and mysterious power.

[00:22:26.300 – 00:22:31.100] Why, all the drunks in the world should be able to get a thing like this.

[00:22:31.100 – 00:22:35.400] So I frantically rushed around working on drunks.

[00:22:35.400 – 00:22:38.700] And of course, I made the usual mistakes.

[00:22:38.700 – 00:22:40.000] Some of you made them.

[00:22:40.000 – 00:22:44.500] I thought they ought to have a hot flash just like mine, see them stars and things.

[00:22:44.500 – 00:22:50.800] They all tapped their heads and looked the other way, said, “Uh, mopus.” Nothing happened.

[00:22:50.800 – 00:22:51.800] Nobody got well.

[00:22:51.800 – 00:23:02.700] And yet now, somehow, I felt and never lost the conviction that here was a clue, a key, which

[00:23:02.700 – 00:23:07.800] might unlock that dark secret of alcoholism.

[00:23:07.800 – 00:23:10.400] So I kept on working.

[00:23:10.400 – 00:23:17.100] Meanwhile, very sad to relate, my first friend fell by the wayside.

[00:23:17.100 – 00:23:20.600] He never did quite recover.

[00:23:20.600 – 00:23:25.500] God love him, he’s just as much a founder of this movement as I.

[00:23:25.500 – 00:23:29.400] Incidentally, there are many founders of this movement.

[00:23:29.400 – 00:23:32.100] I wish we could abolish that word founder.

[00:23:32.100 – 00:23:42.300] In fact, dear people, if you will leave with me the satisfaction of having been one of the early members of Alcoholics Anonymous, I will sell you the foundership

[00:23:42.300 – 00:23:43.800] for $1.98.

[00:23:43.800 – 00:23:45.100] Are there any takers?

[00:23:45.100 – 00:23:51.300] Well, at any rate, I frantically rushed around trying to fix drunks for six months.

[00:23:51.300 – 00:23:58.500] And finally, my more practical relatives began to say, “Well, when in hell is this guy going to work and support Lois?

[00:23:58.500 – 00:24:10.400] How long is he going to be a missionary here?” And egged on by them, I used to go over and sit in brokerage

[00:24:10.400 – 00:24:14.600] stocks on those nice customers’ chairs they have in there and look at the ticker.

[00:24:14.600 – 00:24:17.200] And, you know, I used to be in Wall Street.

[00:24:17.200 – 00:24:22.300] So I made a shift at going back to work, but none of my old friends would have me, of course.

[00:24:22.300 – 00:24:25.800] They didn’t have much confidence in that hot flash business.

[00:24:25.800 – 00:24:28.500] Of course, I was telling anybody, everybody in a loud voice about it.

[00:24:28.500 – 00:24:32.300] So one day, I’m sitting beside another stranger.

[00:24:32.300 – 00:24:39.200] And unwittingly, he played a part.

[00:24:39.200 – 00:24:44.600] He became a link in that chain of destiny that began to stretch out from those hours.

[00:24:44.600 – 00:24:51.900] And I fell into a business deal, and the business deal led me to Akron, and it was a struggle for control of a little company there.

[00:24:51.900 – 00:24:59.600] And it was a proxy row, and it looked like we had control, these new associates that I had suddenly picked up.

[00:24:59.600 – 00:25:08.200] And the other side had more votes, and so my side went home and left me flat broke in the Mayflower Hotel, kind of a fly-by-night job.

[00:25:08.200 – 00:25:11.800] Well, I had counted on this new opportunity.

[00:25:11.800 – 00:25:15.700] It might have made me president of a small concern in a new town.

[00:25:15.700 – 00:25:18.000] And I thought, well, again, we’ll hold our heads up.

[00:25:18.000 – 00:25:20.800] We’ll get Lois out of that goddamn department store.

[00:25:20.800 – 00:25:25.800] And, uh, life will look up, and of course, in my spare time, I’ll work with drunks.

[00:25:25.800 – 00:25:33.800] But no, destiny, let us say providence, perhaps had other ideas.

[00:25:33.800 – 00:25:38.400] So my effort to go back into business failed.

[00:25:38.400 – 00:25:47.800] And walking up and down in the lobby of the Mayflower House- Mayflower Hotel at Akron, uh, I suddenly panicked.

[00:25:47.800 – 00:25:57.900] In all those ways of self-pity and anger, and I was mad because I thought some of those proxies were forged, which had defeated me.

[00:25:57.900 – 00:26:01.600] All of a sudden, I’m in a plight of getting drunk.

[00:26:01.600 – 00:26:06.100] Well, I couldn’t pray it away.

[00:26:06.100 – 00:26:07.000] I couldn’t wish it away.

[00:26:07.000 – 00:26:07.800] There it was.

[00:26:07.800 – 00:26:09.800] I began to look in the bar.

[00:26:09.800 – 00:26:11.000] It was a Saturday afternoon.

[00:26:11.000 – 00:26:15.700] The folks in there were filling up, you know, and the buzz was getting better and more interesting.

[00:26:15.700 – 00:26:19.100] I walked to the other end of the lobby.

[00:26:19.100 – 00:26:20.500] There I saw a church directory.

[00:26:20.500 – 00:26:22.700] At random, I called up a preacher.

[00:26:22.700 – 00:26:26.900] I told him I was a drunk from New York who needed another drunk to work on.

[00:26:26.900 – 00:26:31.200] And that’s the first time that I probably ever used those words.

[00:26:31.200 – 00:26:39.200] Up to this point, I’d been preaching from this fine spiritual and moral hilltop on which I thought I’d been divinely set.

[00:26:39.200 – 00:26:43.700] But this time, I realized I needed another drunk just as much as he needed me.

[00:26:43.700 – 00:26:46.000] I needed him to keep me sober.

[00:26:46.000 – 00:26:50.800] So another deep realization, a new one showed up.

[00:26:50.800 – 00:26:57.400] And a good many of you know how that quest led me face to face with dear old Dr.

[00:26:57.400 – 00:27:07.200] Bob, who passed out of our sight from hearing last November, but who is right here tonight in my belief.

[00:27:07.200 – 00:27:16.300] Well, when I set eyes on that drunk, I told him right away I needed him as much as he needed me.

[00:27:16.300 – 00:27:18.500] Gone was the preaching.

[00:27:18.500 – 00:27:22.800] Gone was this divine appointment to fix all the drunks in the world.

[00:27:22.800 – 00:27:25.800] Now I’m busy on how am I gonna stay sober.

[00:27:25.800 – 00:27:36.100] So we talked for hours, and we were brought together by a non-alcoholic, who out of a long list

[00:27:36.100 – 00:27:46.300] of people who turned the other way, found time and cared enough to bring us together, even as my doctor had

[00:27:46.300 – 00:27:47.300] cared enough.

[00:27:47.300 – 00:27:53.200] Non-alcoholics have played critical parts in the destiny of our society.

[00:27:53.200 – 00:28:03.300] Well, the outgrowth of the talk was that Bob’s wife, dear Annie Smith, invited me to come to live at their house

[00:28:03.300 – 00:28:07.000] for a few weeks to see if I could revive my business venture.

[00:28:07.000 – 00:28:08.500] She had a more practical reason.

[00:28:08.500 – 00:28:10.600] I could keep an eye on that husband of hers.

[00:28:10.600 – 00:28:11.900] He could keep one on me.

[00:28:11.900 – 00:28:16.800] We weren’t there long before Smithy said, “Well, what about working with some drunks, huh?

[00:28:16.800 – 00:28:26.900] Hadn’t we better be get, be getting busy, if only in self-protection?” And I said, “You bet your boots.” So he calls up the city hospital where he had been ousted from

[00:28:26.900 – 00:28:37.200] the staff, knew the head nurse down in the receiving ward, told her over the phone that a guy had come along from New York and between he and me, we had a cure for alcoholism.

[00:28:37.200 – 00:28:39.800] Bob blushed at that point.

[00:28:39.800 – 00:28:49.800] The, the nurse had said, “Well, Doctor, you’d better try it yourself.” “Well,” she said, “we got a dandy prospect for you, just come

[00:28:49.800 – 00:28:50.200] in here.

[00:28:50.200 – 00:28:54.300] Used to be a good lawyer around town, formerly a member of the city council.

[00:28:54.300 – 00:29:00.100] Hasn’t been dry for years, getting in awful shape.

[00:29:00.100 – 00:29:03.400] Can’t even go home from here without getting drunk.

[00:29:03.400 – 00:29:06.100] I’m sure he wants to stop, but somehow he can’t.

[00:29:06.100 – 00:29:08.800] He’s got the DTs now.

[00:29:08.800 – 00:29:12.600] He just knocked down one of the nurses and blacked her eyes, and we got him strapped.

[00:29:12.600 – 00:29:22.700] How would that case do you?” Bob said, “That sounds very promising.” “Well, let’s put him to bed and, uh, we’ll be down when you get him cleared

[00:29:22.700 – 00:29:30.700] up, and here’s what you want to give him.” So a little later, Dr.

[00:29:30.700 – 00:29:41.700] Bob and I saw a sight which thousands of you have since seen, and God willing, hundreds of thousands of us shall still see, the

[00:29:41.700 – 00:29:46.700] sight of the man on the bed who doesn’t know that he can get well.

[00:29:46.700 – 00:29:53.500] The man on the bed, however, was a skeptic, as many have since been.

[00:29:53.500 – 00:29:56.800] The man on the bed said, “Well, it’s too late for me.

[00:29:56.800 – 00:30:02.100] You fellas have been through the ringer, but you were only in up to your knees, up to your waist.

[00:30:02.100 – 00:30:03.100] I’m in up to my neck.

[00:30:03.100 – 00:30:03.900] It’s too late.

[00:30:03.900 – 00:30:06.200] It’s too late.

[00:30:06.200 – 00:30:08.800] I’m worse than that.

[00:30:08.800 – 00:30:10.300] I don’t even dare go out of here.

[00:30:10.300 – 00:30:20.500] I’ll be drunk before I get home, and somehow I don’t want to be, but I will.” And he said, “Oh, religion, don’t talk to me about that.”

[00:30:20.500 – 00:30:22.500] He said, “I am already a man of faith.

[00:30:22.500 – 00:30:27.700] I still got faith in God, strangely enough, but God has got no faith in me.

[00:30:27.700 – 00:30:29.200] I don’t know what’s got a hold of me.

[00:30:29.200 – 00:30:30.200] I…

[00:30:30.200 – 00:30:42.400] It’s too late.” We said, “Can we come tomorrow?” “Yes,” he said, “I’d like to talk with you.” He said, “Uh, it’s wonderful to talk with someone who understands.” So

[00:30:42.400 – 00:30:44.800] on the morrow we came, and Dr.

[00:30:44.800 – 00:30:48.600] Bob saw the sight that you have since beheld.

[00:30:48.600 – 00:30:55.800] The man on the bed looked up as we came in and said to his wife, “Why, there they are.

[00:30:55.800 – 00:31:02.300] They’re the ones who understand.” And she had been saying to him, “Why, what’s got into you, my husband?

[00:31:02.300 – 00:31:04.700] You seem so different.” He said, “This is the reason.

[00:31:04.700 – 00:31:05.700] They understand.

[00:31:05.700 – 00:31:06.800] They have been through the mill.

[00:31:06.800 – 00:31:08.200] They’re the alcoholics I was…”

[00:31:08.400 – 00:31:09.200] Telling old Bob.

[00:31:09.200 – 00:31:17.400] And then excitedly he related how during the night hope had come to him, and after that something more than hope.

[00:31:17.400 – 00:31:27.300] Because the moment that he decided to try our simple formula, something began to happen.

[00:31:27.300 – 00:31:29.000] He felt lighter.

[00:31:29.000 – 00:31:31.800] He felt a sense of release.

[00:31:31.800 – 00:31:35.300] A weight had taken off of his chest.

[00:31:35.300 – 00:31:40.400] He began strangely to feel all in one piece again.

[00:31:40.400 – 00:31:45.100] His confidence began to grow that if Dr.

[00:31:45.100 – 00:31:48.300] Bob and I could find this answer, so might he.

[00:31:48.300 – 00:31:58.500] And by now he was bursting full of confidence, this hopeless one of the day before, and he said to his wife, “My

[00:31:58.500 – 00:32:00.500] dear, please fetch my clothes.

[00:32:00.500 – 00:32:05.300] We are going to get up and get out of here.” And A.A.

[00:32:05.300 – 00:32:10.800] number three rose from his bed and went out from there, never to drink again.

[00:32:10.800 – 00:32:14.500] And that was the summer of 1935.

[00:32:14.500 – 00:32:20.700] Though we realized it not, the first group had taken shape.

[00:32:20.700 – 00:32:26.500] The promise of the good book started to be literally fulfilled.

[00:32:26.500 – 00:32:29.700] Two or three of us were gathered together.

[00:32:29.700 – 00:32:33.700] Well, that summer we went on working with drunks.

[00:32:33.700 – 00:32:41.500] Returning now to New York with a more becoming humility, I got another one started out there.

[00:32:41.500 – 00:32:47.300] I made a shift to return to business, but again it blew up in my face.

[00:32:47.300 – 00:32:56.300] So by the fall of 1937, three years later, I came west looking for something to do.

[00:32:56.300 – 00:33:00.100] Meanwhile, of course, having contacted Bob a great deal.

[00:33:00.100 – 00:33:08.300] Meanwhile, having worked upon hundreds of alcoholics, and he had done likewise.

[00:33:08.300 – 00:33:12.300] There was failure upon failure upon failure.

[00:33:12.300 – 00:33:20.100] But a few of the, the children of the dark seemingly had turned their faces to the light.

[00:33:20.100 – 00:33:30.100] So in Akron and New York there were small groups, and there was a little bit of a beginning in Cleveland, and a little indication in Washington and Philadelphia perhaps.

[00:33:30.100 – 00:33:33.100] So at length Dr.

[00:33:33.100 – 00:33:35.100] Bob and I come together again.

[00:33:35.100 – 00:33:38.600] It is now the fall of 1937.

[00:33:38.600 – 00:33:49.400] And in his living room, which to me is a hallowed place today, he

[00:33:49.400 – 00:33:59.500] and I shared a realization, one of the greatest hours of realization that I’ve ever known, excepting that

[00:33:59.500 – 00:34:01.000] of my spiritual experience.

[00:34:01.000 – 00:34:08.200] We had been talking over the results, how many of the failures, how many of the successes.

[00:34:08.200 – 00:34:14.200] And finally we made a list of those who had stayed dry any length of time.

[00:34:14.200 – 00:34:19.000] And suddenly it burst upon us.

[00:34:19.000 – 00:34:26.700] Enough time has now elapsed on enough cases so that something new has happened.

[00:34:26.700 – 00:34:30.300] Something wonderful has begun to happen.

[00:34:30.300 – 00:34:36.400] Something can now be spread chain style, alcoholic talking to alcoholic.

[00:34:36.400 – 00:34:38.700] Ah, yes.

[00:34:38.700 – 00:34:48.700] We could clearly see the new light that for three years had been falling upon us children of the night.

[00:34:48.700 – 00:34:52.000] Now the light was plain for anyone to see.

[00:34:52.000 – 00:34:54.900] And here were the recoverers.

[00:34:54.900 – 00:34:57.500] Oh, I don’t know, maybe 40 of us.

[00:34:57.500 – 00:35:05.000] So with this realization, we are saddled with an immense responsibility.

[00:35:05.000 – 00:35:10.100] How is this message going to be transmitted to the million who don’t know?

[00:35:10.100 – 00:35:13.000] Even to the hundreds right here in Akron.

[00:35:13.000 – 00:35:19.900] It’s taken us three years of hard work to produce these two little groups.

[00:35:19.900 – 00:35:22.200] How shall we spread the message?

[00:35:22.200 – 00:35:25.600] Dare we allow it to go just by word of mouth?

[00:35:25.600 – 00:35:32.400] Dare we, dare we remain in this halcyon simplicity of the front parlor and coffee and cakes?

[00:35:32.400 – 00:35:35.300] The hospitals don’t want us.

[00:35:35.300 – 00:35:36.900] Shouldn’t we have a chain of hospitals?

[00:35:36.900 – 00:35:47.700] And at that time we supposed nothing but the old master barbers, you know, could put on this shave, so shouldn’t some of the old-timers be, uh, uh,

[00:35:47.700 – 00:35:48.600] subsidized?

[00:35:48.600 – 00:35:56.700] Kind of a temporary missionaries to go out to, you know, Chicago and LA and Kansas City and Dallas probably, drunks there.

[00:35:56.700 – 00:35:59.100] You know, subsidize a few missionaries.

[00:35:59.100 – 00:36:01.200] But above all, shouldn’t we have a book?

[00:36:01.200 – 00:36:06.100] Shouldn’t we put it on the record what had happened to us and how this thing worked?

[00:36:06.100 – 00:36:12.300] Didn’t we owe at least that much to these million drunks right here in America who did not know?

[00:36:12.300 – 00:36:18.600] Well, of course, that involved a radical step.

[00:36:18.600 – 00:36:21.100] So Dr.

[00:36:21.100 – 00:36:23.200] Bob called the little Akron group together.

[00:36:23.200 – 00:36:30.000] I remember that meeting in the late fall of ’37 as though it were yesterday.

[00:36:30.000 – 00:36:33.400] I can see the faces there in that living room.

[00:36:33.400 – 00:36:38.000] And of course, by this time I had become wildly excited.

[00:36:38.000 – 00:36:40.300] I’m a promoter by nature, a salesman.

[00:36:40.300 – 00:36:48.500] I’d already begun to dream about the greatest religious and social and medical development of all time, and I was flailing my arms around.

[00:36:48.500 – 00:36:58.600] When I began to talk about books and missionaries and hospital chains and financed drunk tanks, I could

[00:36:58.600 – 00:36:59.800] see their faces fall.

[00:36:59.800 – 00:37:07.700] And as the discussion went on, that meeting divided into three parts, three characteristic parts.

[00:37:07.700 – 00:37:14.800] The same parts that this movement has divided into over the question of whether we should go on with this general service idea.

[00:37:14.800 – 00:37:22.800] And the conservative or orthodox section said, “Let’s keep AA simple.

[00:37:22.800 – 00:37:28.300] We pass this word on mouth to mouth.

[00:37:28.300 – 00:37:30.700] No money, no obligation.

[00:37:30.700 – 00:37:33.600] That’s why it works.

[00:37:33.600 – 00:37:37.700] If you go into the hospital business, you’ll be ruined.

[00:37:37.700 – 00:37:43.100] If you subsidize missionaries to carry this out, you’ll create a professional class.

[00:37:43.100 – 00:37:44.800] It’ll ruin us.

[00:37:44.800 – 00:37:45.800] It’ll spoil it.

[00:37:45.800 – 00:37:55.900] Don’t do it.” Then said they, “Well, even if you get a book, we’re gonna quarrel over who’s

[00:37:55.900 – 00:37:57.100] gonna write the damn book.

[00:37:57.100 – 00:37:58.800] Will it be any good?

[00:37:58.800 – 00:38:03.200] And who’s gonna make the money out of this book?

[00:38:03.200 – 00:38:06.400] Even a book will spoil this.

[00:38:06.400 – 00:38:10.100] Don’t do any of these things,” said the conservative orthodox people.

[00:38:10.100 – 00:38:17.800] Well, those folks weren’t entirely wrong, but thank God they weren’t entirely right either.

[00:38:17.800 – 00:38:20.900] Then we had another section in that little meeting.

[00:38:20.900 – 00:38:22.300] They were the indifferent people.

[00:38:22.300 – 00:38:32.000] They said, “Oh, well, if Bill and Doc want to raise money and have missionaries and books, all right with us, but don’t bother us.” Said, “We’re all right.

[00:38:32.000 – 00:38:43.300] We don’t…” Then there was the promoter guys like me who said, “Look, if you don’t do these things, this thing will fall right apart.” In

[00:38:43.300 – 00:38:48.600] other words, if you, if you don’t have at least a book, your public relations will get garbled.

[00:38:48.600 – 00:38:57.500] We’ll bust up into 100 different cults, and worst of all, we will not bring it in front of those million alcoholics.

[00:38:57.500 – 00:39:00.500] What has happened to what?

[00:39:00.500 – 00:39:04.300] My God, they aren’t all going to come to Akron to get well.

[00:39:04.300 – 00:39:08.100] Are you gonna wait years while this travels around by word of mouth?

[00:39:08.100 – 00:39:15.200] No, we gotta have a book, and in the back of my head, I was still thinking about financing a string of them drunk tanks, too.

[00:39:15.200 – 00:39:20.100] And I kind of wanted to be a missionary myself.

[00:39:20.100 – 00:39:21.800] You know, the Wilsons were kind of hard up.

[00:39:21.800 – 00:39:23.900] Lois was still in that damn department store.

[00:39:23.900 – 00:39:34.000] Well, the upshot of it was that the, that the promotion element in the meeting, which was me and Torrey Criado, Smith, he’s kind of in the middle.

[00:39:34.000 – 00:39:34.900] He’s conservative.

[00:39:34.900 – 00:39:44.900] The promotion fellas, plus the indifferent fellas, created enough votes so the meeting decided, “Well, now, Bill, if you think this all-important and we can get a lot of dough, you go back

[00:39:44.900 – 00:39:50.800] to New York City, where there’s a lot of dough, and you get it up.” See?

[00:39:50.800 – 00:39:54.300] Get these drunk tanks and, uh, missionaries and that book.

[00:39:54.300 – 00:39:58.200] Well, by this time, I was just as high on a kite.

[00:39:58.200 – 00:40:05.200] You know, drunks can get, uh, intoxicated on other things than gin, and I was just intoxicated with this idea.

[00:40:05.200 – 00:40:15.200] I’d got it all ballooned up, and I figured I was a good salesman, you know, and, uh, prying a, you know, a few hundred thousand dollars just for a starter out of the rich, it

[00:40:15.200 – 00:40:17.000] just looked like no nothing at all.

[00:40:17.000 – 00:40:23.800] My God, here was alcoholism, the hopeless, hopeless disease, gentlemen, and now look at these cures.

[00:40:23.800 – 00:40:24.500] 40 of them.

[00:40:24.500 – 00:40:25.200] 40 of them.

[00:40:25.200 – 00:40:27.800] See?

[00:40:27.800 – 00:40:34.700] Well, I began to solicit the very rich on my acquaintance, and then I made a very disheartening discovery.

[00:40:34.700 – 00:40:37.900] I discovered that the very rich had no interest in drunks.

[00:40:37.900 – 00:40:40.300] That is, at least, of investing money in drunks.

[00:40:40.300 – 00:40:43.400] They probably had all had a bad experience.

[00:40:43.400 – 00:40:49.100] So then I went to the Rockefeller Foundation.

[00:40:49.100 – 00:40:55.400] Well, I figured this is, you know, has social implications, medical implications, religious implications.

[00:40:55.400 – 00:40:58.000] It’ll be right up old John D.’s alley.

[00:40:58.000 – 00:40:58.700] John D.

[00:40:58.700 – 00:41:01.600] will like this because it’s got that alcohol angle in it.

[00:41:01.600 – 00:41:08.300] Well, at the Rockefeller Foundation, it was right after that break in the market in 1937.

[00:41:08.300 – 00:41:09.900] They felt kind of hard up up there.

[00:41:09.900 – 00:41:11.500] They were kind of short of money at the time.

[00:41:11.500 – 00:41:15.000] Besides, this didn’t fit any particular category.

[00:41:15.000 – 00:41:18.000] It wasn’t exactly medical, religious, social, or what have you.

[00:41:18.000 – 00:41:22.900] Something like that, uh, fella used to run around at the tail end of Barnum & Bailey Circus.

[00:41:22.900 – 00:41:24.700] They used to call him Zip What Is It.

[00:41:24.700 – 00:41:25.800] You probably remember him.

[00:41:25.800 – 00:41:28.200] Well, AA was something like that.

[00:41:28.200 – 00:41:29.900] In fact, we didn’t even have a name.

[00:41:29.900 – 00:41:31.000] We, we– they used to ask-

[00:41:31.200 – 00:41:34.300] What this was, and I used to call it a bunch of drunks trying to get along.

[00:41:34.300 – 00:41:43.600] So I’m pretty discouraged, and when I get discouraged, you know, I’m one of them psychosomatic guys.

[00:41:43.600 – 00:41:47.800] I get imaginary ulcers, so I had a bad attack of imaginary ulcers.

[00:41:47.800 – 00:41:52.400] And one of my brother-in-law, he’s a doctor, to see what to do about the imaginary ulcers.

[00:41:52.400 – 00:41:57.600] And I get bellyaching to him about how stingy the rich are on account of these drunks.

[00:41:57.600 – 00:42:02.500] Gotta get money, else it’s gonna fall all apart.

[00:42:02.500 – 00:42:05.900] Says, “Hey, why don’t you talk to Shirley Wynn, the health commissioner?

[00:42:05.900 – 00:42:10.600] He shares an office with me.” So I go in and tell the story to Shirley Wynn.

[00:42:10.600 – 00:42:12.300] He says, “The guy for you to see is John D.

[00:42:12.300 – 00:42:16.800] Rockefeller personally.” “Oh,” I said to Dr.

[00:42:16.800 – 00:42:19.400] Wynn, “what about an introduction to the Prince of Wales?

[00:42:19.400 – 00:42:22.300] I mean, he could probably help out on this if I could only get to him.

[00:42:22.300 – 00:42:28.300] How do I get introduced to John D.?” Then comes one of those strange events.

[00:42:28.300 – 00:42:33.100] My brother-in-law said, “Well, when I went to school, I used to know a gal.

[00:42:33.100 – 00:42:35.900] She had an uncle, maybe he’s dead.

[00:42:35.900 – 00:42:41.500] I think he was a member of the Rockefeller entourage, great friend of the family, somehow mixed up with their charities.

[00:42:41.500 – 00:42:43.400] His name was Richardson.

[00:42:43.400 – 00:42:48.200] Maybe he’s alive.

[00:42:48.200 – 00:42:48.900] I’ll call up Mr.

[00:42:48.900 – 00:42:53.900] Rockefeller’s offices and see what, what about it.” So he called up and this old man comes on the wire.

[00:42:53.900 – 00:42:57.600] In jig time, within an hour, we were right in Mr.

[00:42:57.600 – 00:42:58.200] John D.

[00:42:58.200 – 00:43:02.200] Rockefeller’s private personal offices talking to one of his best friends.

[00:43:02.200 – 00:43:03.100] Now figure that one out.

[00:43:03.100 – 00:43:05.900] So I figured, well, we’re getting hot now.

[00:43:05.900 – 00:43:07.400] This thing really getting warm.

[00:43:07.400 – 00:43:09.500] I mean, we’re getting near that big dog.

[00:43:09.500 – 00:43:15.300] And the old gentleman asked me to have lunch with him, and shortly after that we have a meeting with a lot of Mr.

[00:43:15.300 – 00:43:21.500] Rockefeller’s friends, and they listen to all these drunk stories, and they’re all head up about it.

[00:43:21.500 – 00:43:31.500] One of them even comes out to Akron, makes an investigation, comes back to New York City and says, “Well, this is really it.” We’d steered him in the direction of Akron because Smithy

[00:43:31.500 – 00:43:32.400] was harder up then.

[00:43:32.400 – 00:43:35.600] They were just going to pull the pucker string on the mortgage on his house.

[00:43:35.600 – 00:43:40.800] Go on.

[00:43:40.800 – 00:43:44.600] Gee, things looked good.

[00:43:44.600 – 00:43:46.100] The guy came back with a report.

[00:43:46.100 – 00:43:49.900] Well, ought to start this off with $50,000, you know, just a starter, Mr.

[00:43:49.900 – 00:43:53.400] Rockefeller’s money, and we need the drunk tank in Akron.

[00:43:53.400 – 00:43:54.600] We’ll put Smithy in there.

[00:43:54.600 – 00:43:55.400] He’s a doctor.

[00:43:55.400 – 00:44:01.500] And, uh, and of course we’ll get a little subsidy for a few of these guys and a little money for the book.

[00:44:01.500 – 00:44:05.900] And of course this will be just a starter, $50,000 project just to kick things off.

[00:44:05.900 – 00:44:12.600] Well, then came another great realization and decision.

[00:44:12.600 – 00:44:20.600] You see, at that time I had got all the drunks sold that we just needed a hell of a lot of money to make this thing go and to spread it.

[00:44:20.600 – 00:44:25.700] Naturally, we thought in business terms, and naturally I thought in terms of eating too, you know.

[00:44:25.700 – 00:44:26.500] I was hungry.

[00:44:26.500 – 00:44:32.100] Lot of the AAs have had them temptations before or since.

[00:44:32.100 – 00:44:41.500] Well, we, uh, soon heard that Mr.

[00:44:41.500 – 00:44:43.600] Richardson was taking this report to Mr.

[00:44:43.600 – 00:44:47.200] Rockefeller, his old friend Junior, as he called him.

[00:44:47.200 – 00:44:52.100] So he lays the report on Junior’s desk and Junior reads it.

[00:44:52.100 – 00:44:54.500] Pretty soon he’s talking to his old friend Dick.

[00:44:54.500 – 00:44:55.600] Mr.

[00:44:55.600 – 00:45:03.500] Rockefeller shakes his head and he said, “Somehow, Dick, I’m very strangely affected by this moving account.

[00:45:03.500 – 00:45:08.900] This thing is small, but it might have very great possibilities.

[00:45:08.900 – 00:45:13.200] Because, Dick, this is pure first century Christianity.

[00:45:13.200 – 00:45:20.800] Dick, I’m terribly afraid that if we give this thing any money, we’ll kill it.

[00:45:20.800 – 00:45:28.700] Ordinarily, yes, sure, it affects me very deeply.

[00:45:28.700 – 00:45:35.000] Alcohol, medicine, all these fields I’m interested in, but Dick, I’m afraid.

[00:45:35.000 – 00:45:38.700] I’m afraid we’ll spoil it,” said John D.

[00:45:38.700 – 00:45:50.000] Rockefeller, “if we give it money.” And so that man took a decision that he would not give us money, even

[00:45:50.000 – 00:45:55.400] though he was already deeply interested and we had engaged the interest of some of his closest friends.

[00:45:55.400 – 00:46:05.300] In other words, he took a decision, I am sure under the guidance of God, which has deeply affected our destiny.

[00:46:05.300 – 00:46:11.000] Well, boy, when the bad news came out, that, it was tough, I’m telling you.

[00:46:11.000 – 00:46:11.900] Mr.

[00:46:11.900 – 00:46:22.100] Rockefeller did put a few dollars only in the, in the Riverside Church treasury, and for a few months they were doled

[00:46:22.100 – 00:46:27.600] out to Smithy and me, and, uh, the heat was taken off that house, uh, the mortgage on Smith’s house.

[00:46:27.600 – 00:46:29.700] And that’s all that happened.

[00:46:29.700 – 00:46:33.000] No books, no missionaries, no hospitals, no nothing.

[00:46:33.000 – 00:46:37.100] Well, we drunks persisted with these new friends.

[00:46:37.100 – 00:46:39.900] We, uh, opined that Mr.

[00:46:39.900 – 00:46:41.700] Rockefeller might be mistaken.

[00:46:41.700 – 00:46:45.200] And how could we just sit and pack this on?

[00:46:45.200 – 00:46:46.500] At least we needed a book.

[00:46:46.500 – 00:46:48.500] We needed some money.

[00:46:48.500 – 00:46:51.300] Well, his friends agreed with us.

[00:46:51.300 – 00:46:57.300] So somebody said, “Why don’t we form a foundation, kind of like the Rockefeller Foundation?

[00:46:57.300 – 00:47:07.400] We’ll give you boys a list of names that you can solicit for some dough, and, and you get the money in here, and the rich can put it in tax-free, and, uh, we’ll have money with which to do this book

[00:47:07.400 – 00:47:17.500] and at least finance a few of them.” So with a great deal of to-do with the free services of one of the biggest law firms

[00:47:17.500 – 00:47:22.900] in New York, a charter was drawn up for something that you have since heard of called the Alcoholic Foundation.

[00:47:22.900 – 00:47:29.900] Sounds very imposing, but it was nothing but an incorporated committee of some of these friends and two or three of us drunks.

[00:47:29.900 – 00:47:34.800] I stayed off it, you see, because I figured I’d be one of the beneficiaries.

[00:47:34.800 – 00:47:44.800] Well, anyway, uh, we began to have meetings of this foundation, and, uh, we were sure enough suppli-supplied with credentials by

[00:47:44.800 – 00:47:46.900] which to pry some money out of the very rich.

[00:47:46.900 – 00:47:56.100] So all during the summer of 1938, we salesmen in New York went after these rich alcoholics with the backing of Mr.

[00:47:56.100 – 00:47:56.500] John D.

[00:47:56.500 – 00:47:57.900] Rockefeller’s friends.

[00:47:57.900 – 00:47:59.000] Now figure that one out.

[00:47:59.000 – 00:48:05.500] Any promoter in this audience would say that ought to be plenty good enough, at least for a few bucks.

[00:48:05.500 – 00:48:15.800] And believe it or not, people, we worked all summer to raise money for that foundation, and we didn’t get one damn cent.

[00:48:15.800 – 00:48:17.800] Praise God.

[00:48:17.800 – 00:48:21.800] Well, it was pretty discouraging.

[00:48:21.800 – 00:48:26.200] The rich were either going to Florida or maybe Texas, I don’t know.

[00:48:26.200 – 00:48:29.800] They thought that TB was a better cause.

[00:48:29.800 – 00:48:37.800] They said to us, “Well, why scrape up the last miserable dregs of society?” The rich had no interest in drunks, period.

[00:48:37.800 – 00:48:38.900] That was for sure.

[00:48:38.900 – 00:48:41.400] And how fortunate it was.

[00:48:41.400 – 00:48:48.900] Had we got any money in that period, this society as we know it today would never exist.

[00:48:48.900 – 00:48:52.000] Therefore, that decision of Mr.

[00:48:52.000 – 00:49:01.800] Rockefeller’s not to give us money saved this society, and later, as you will see, he gave very greatly of himself, not of his money.

[00:49:01.800 – 00:49:09.800] Well, by this time, our big ideas are whittled down to the size where we figured we just had to have a book though.

[00:49:09.800 – 00:49:12.600] I mean, we had to put this thing on the record.

[00:49:12.600 – 00:49:22.600] So, uh, there wasn’t any money in the foundation to feed me while a book was being done and hire a gal and

[00:49:22.600 – 00:49:23.100] so on.

[00:49:23.100 – 00:49:33.400] At that time, now the midsummer of ’38, we’d got testimonials from Johns Hopkins, and we had a couple of chapters of this book attached

[00:49:33.400 – 00:49:35.100] to the prospectus for the rich.

[00:49:35.100 – 00:49:45.700] At a foundation meeting, which was one of those commiseration gatherings with these new friends, uh, one of them said, “Well, Bill, why don’t you take this book down to Harper’s?

[00:49:45.700 – 00:49:51.500] I know the religious editor.” To my great surprise, Harper’s bit on it.

[00:49:51.500 – 00:49:55.500] They said, “Sure, we’ll give you $1,500 advanced royalty, Mr.

[00:49:55.500 – 00:49:59.500] Wilson.” Gee, I was flabbergasted.

[00:49:59.500 – 00:50:01.800] That sounded like about 15,000 to me.

[00:50:01.800 – 00:50:05.300] We were really hard up and Lois working at a department store still.

[00:50:05.300 – 00:50:10.600] And then it came to us, the alcoholics.

[00:50:10.600 – 00:50:14.800] We couldn’t give this book to a publisher if it amounted to anything.

[00:50:14.800 – 00:50:19.700] This movement should own that book.

[00:50:19.700 – 00:50:22.400] We should publish this book ourselves.

[00:50:22.400 – 00:50:31.100] Well, we went back to the hard-headed business friends up at Rockefeller Center, and they said, “Why, amateurs never publish books and get away with it.

[00:50:31.100 – 00:50:41.300] You can’t do that.” Well, we said, “After all, gentlemen, there isn’t any money in the foundation to do it.” I used to say that quite pointedly

[00:50:41.300 – 00:50:41.900] about then.

[00:50:41.900 – 00:50:51.900] “Why don’t we get up a subscription among the drunks and see if we can’t do it?” And against their

[00:50:51.900 – 00:50:55.800] unanimous advice to the contrary, we went and did just that.

[00:50:55.800 – 00:51:06.000] In other words, decision number one that had saved this thing from professionalism and great money and wealth

[00:51:06.000 – 00:51:07.800] and property ownership was made by Mr.

[00:51:07.800 – 00:51:09.200] Rockefeller and his friends.

[00:51:09.200 – 00:51:19.400] The decision that this fellowship should publish and own this book and control it, also a very vital thing, as you shall see, was made by us drunks over

[00:51:19.400 – 00:51:20.300] their objection.

[00:51:20.300 – 00:51:30.300] Thereby giving you just a little fragment of our history where time after time, events and people have intervened constantly to turn this thing from a left-hand

[00:51:30.300 – 00:51:31.800] path always into the right.

[00:51:31.800 – 00:51:42.100] Well, the fantastic story of how we sold the $4,500 worth of stock to all the drunks around New York in a book that hadn’t yet been written,

[00:51:42.100 – 00:51:47.600] and how the sheriff almost got the book, and how finally Mr.

[00:51:47.600 – 00:51:53.600] Rockefeller, three years later, gave us a dinner and told the world that this thing was good.

[00:51:54.900 – 00:51:57.200] All of those things I told you last night.

[00:51:57.200 – 00:52:06.400] But we did come up with the book Alcoholics Anonymous, which today is owned by this same board of trustees and held in trust for you, the members of AA.

[00:52:06.400 – 00:52:09.900] The income from it is all yours.

[00:52:09.900 – 00:52:20.200] It goes to the foundation of the group, excepting a royalty on that book, which I receive for authorship, which is the only money I receive out of any AA

[00:52:20.200 – 00:52:27.100] source, which I earned, I think, as a, an author and not as a missionary.

[00:52:27.100 – 00:52:35.000] In fact, you drunks sitting down there, I have got you for fifty cents every time we sell one of those books.

[00:52:35.000 – 00:52:35.600] How do you like it?

[00:52:35.600 – 00:52:45.700] Well, how we got through those years, I don’t

[00:52:45.700 – 00:52:46.000] know.

[00:52:46.000 – 00:52:56.200] Somebody felt kind of sorry for me the other night and said, “It must have been terrible, Bill.” I said, “No, it was wonderful.” Those for me were the wonderful years of AA, the years

[00:52:56.200 – 00:53:06.200] of struggle, the years of flying blind when we were never quite blind, when we still had faith, the years in which the fundamental

[00:53:06.200 – 00:53:08.400] principles were hammered out and applied.

[00:53:08.400 – 00:53:11.700] Those were the great years of AA.

[00:53:11.700 – 00:53:12.100] Why?

[00:53:12.100 – 00:53:19.800] Because we could see that people had begun to get well, that the chain reaction was starting that might one day spread over the world.

[00:53:19.800 – 00:53:22.300] That’s what kept all of us going then.

[00:53:22.300 – 00:53:24.400] What was a little problem?

[00:53:24.400 – 00:53:34.600] What were a few difficulties in the face of a spectacle of God’s bringing something new into the world, especially into that dark

[00:53:34.600 – 00:53:36.100] world we knew so well?

[00:53:36.100 – 00:53:46.600] Well, you all know how in the year 1941, Jack Alexander published that piece in the Post, which

[00:53:46.600 – 00:53:51.100] brought thousands of frantic inquiries to our little office in New York.

[00:53:51.100 – 00:53:58.700] Right then and there, AA entered a new phase.

[00:53:58.700 – 00:54:05.200] And incidentally, the decision about that was not taken by alcoholics.

[00:54:05.200 – 00:54:08.000] It was taken by a non-alcoholic, just one.

[00:54:08.000 – 00:54:11.500] And I only recently heard the complete story.

[00:54:11.500 – 00:54:20.300] We had some AAs in Philadelphia with Saturday Post connections, and they suggested the piece, and the Post had always turned it away.

[00:54:20.300 – 00:54:29.100] And finally, to our great and sudden surprise, Jack Alexander was assigned to do that piece.

[00:54:29.100 – 00:54:31.000] Star writer for the Post.

[00:54:31.000 – 00:54:32.400] Gee, are we excited.

[00:54:32.400 – 00:54:33.300] What had happened?

[00:54:33.300 – 00:54:38.200] And as you know, that piece spelled out recovery for thousands of us.

[00:54:38.200 – 00:54:41.000] To some of us, it meant even life itself.

[00:54:41.000 – 00:54:45.700] And let’s see what on, what a slender thread that decision hung and who made it.

[00:54:45.700 – 00:54:56.300] It appeared that one day the editorial staff was discussing us, whether this was a sect or a cult or something phony,

[00:54:56.300 – 00:54:59.600] whether it was a racket, whether it did what was claimed.

[00:54:59.600 – 00:55:03.500] And some of them thought it was one thing and some thought it was another.

[00:55:03.500 – 00:55:13.600] And they were quite undecided as to whether they dared publish anything about us, although Liberty had already published us and John Dee had held this

[00:55:13.600 – 00:55:17.000] dinner for us in which he had published to the world that he believed in it.

[00:55:17.000 – 00:55:20.600] Yet the Post was still suspicious and doubtful.

[00:55:20.600 – 00:55:24.700] And they were having this editorial discussion.

[00:55:24.700 – 00:55:34.700] Should they publish anything about this new society, which then, incidentally, had run up from a hundred members in 1939 up

[00:55:34.700 – 00:55:39.500] to almost two thousand by that time under the impetus of the Liberty piece and Mr.

[00:55:39.500 – 00:55:41.600] Rockefeller’s interest in us.

[00:55:41.600 – 00:55:43.600] Should they do it?

[00:55:43.600 – 00:55:49.900] Well, I have only recently been told that the owner of the Saturday Post happened to be present at that meeting.

[00:55:49.900 – 00:55:58.500] And he listened to this discussion for a long time, and he said, “Well, gentlemen, I rarely hate to interfere with editorial decisions on this magazine.

[00:55:58.500 – 00:56:05.800] But I must speak up and tell you that I personally know two of these recovered people.

[00:56:05.800 – 00:56:07.800] And, gentlemen, it is a miracle.

[00:56:07.800 – 00:56:08.900] It is miraculous.

[00:56:08.900 – 00:56:18.000] I think the Post should publish this piece.” On that slender how many lives hung?

[00:56:18.000 – 00:56:19.700] Only God knows.

[00:56:19.700 – 00:56:30.100] Oh, yes, AA has been a long succession of great realizations and great reali- and great decisions.

[00:56:30.100 – 00:56:36.800] Well, with the advent of the Saturday Post piece, we were confronted with an entirely new problem.

[00:56:36.800 – 00:56:43.000] The problem now was, could these new groups hang together?

[00:56:43.000 – 00:56:46.800] We’d found the, the individual, he could hang together.

[00:56:46.800 – 00:56:47.500] He could get well.

[00:56:47.500 – 00:56:51.500] But could these crazy drunks hang together in groups?

[00:56:51.500 – 00:56:58.100] We found that even so-sobered-up locusts, I mean.

[00:56:58.100 – 00:56:59.600] Why, they sprung up everywhere.

[00:56:59.600 – 00:57:01.100] They’d even spring up in the mail.

[00:57:01.100 – 00:57:05.200] My gracious, what a discovery that was, that this thing could be done in the mail.

[00:57:05.200 – 00:57:11.600] And then they all began to write the New York office of the terrible troubles they were having, these awful problems.

[00:57:11.600 – 00:57:20.600] And then pretty soon they had the clubhouse problem, and they had the poker problem, and what were those boys and girls doing in the clubhouse besides staying sober problem.

[00:57:20.600 – 00:57:28.800] And, uh, they had the organization problem, and we had the missionary problem all over again.

[00:57:28.800 – 00:57:31.500] And we had the big money problem all over again.

[00:57:31.500 – 00:57:37.100] And we had problems of prestige, and, oh dear, it was nothing but problems.

[00:57:37.100 – 00:57:47.100] And I used to just sit in that desk at New York and say, “My God, are we going to present all of America, each with a group of alcoholics who does not wish to stay

[00:57:47.100 – 00:57:47.500] sober?

[00:57:47.500 – 00:57:54.800] What a present that would be.” Well, those were the days of our adolescence.

[00:57:54.800 – 00:58:00.800] Or with the advent of that Saturday Post piece, we had passed out of the pioneering time.

[00:58:00.800 – 00:58:07.000] We’d passed through our infancy, and this was that exciting, fearsome period of adolescence.

[00:58:07.000 – 00:58:12.600] And on its anvil, the AA tradition was hammered out.

[00:58:12.600 – 00:58:21.600] Those principles of group relations, our relations one with the other, one group with the other, our relations with the world outside.

[00:58:21.600 – 00:58:29.600] And we commenced to make a lot of very marvelous and singular discoveries about ourselves.

[00:58:29.600 – 00:58:36.400] We found that this society of ours was destined to be quite unlike any other human form of society.

[00:58:36.400 – 00:58:44.200] Here was a society where, in some respects, the welfare of the whole had to be paramount to that of any individual.

[00:58:44.200 – 00:58:54.200] God knows it was important for the individual to survive, but if this group and this movement couldn’t survive, there wouldn’t be much recovery for anybody, especially the million yet

[00:58:54.200 – 00:58:54.800] to come.

[00:58:54.800 – 00:59:02.400] We also made another discovery, that this society didn’t run on permanent inspired leadership like me.

[00:59:02.400 – 00:59:06.900] And a lot of other inspired ones you had since, you know.

[00:59:06.900 – 00:59:09.600] No, sir.

[00:59:09.600 – 00:59:12.500] We began to talk about something called the group conscience.

[00:59:12.500 – 00:59:15.700] I remember when that word first began to be used.

[00:59:15.700 – 00:59:16.800] I don’t know who coined it.

[00:59:16.800 – 00:59:21.700] And the old-timers would look at me and say, “What the hell do they mean, the group conscience?

[00:59:21.700 – 00:59:27.000] That group of mine ain’t got any conscience.” “After all the good I done to them, look what they done to me.

[00:59:27.000 – 00:59:37.300] They slit my throat and tossed me out.” “What do you mean, the group conscience?” “Why, those galoots, they’re the most un-ungrateful bunch.”

[00:59:38.200 – 00:59:49.400] But still, we learned that the group conscience, once it was informed, once people had begun to practice the steps in their lives, that

[00:59:49.400 – 00:59:57.600] the conscience of this group could be a wiser thing respecting its own survival than that of any inspired leader.

[00:59:57.600 – 00:60:07.200] How I well remember their instructing me for the first time in that principle, that the group could be wiser than the individual.

[00:60:07.200 – 00:60:11.000] And what a critical decision it was, too.

[00:60:11.000 – 00:60:21.000] After this thing had been going on about three years, uh, we were still awful hard up, as you

[00:60:21.000 – 00:60:21.200] know.

[00:60:21.200 – 00:60:23.300] Rockefeller hadn’t coughed up.

[00:60:23.300 – 00:60:25.900] Lois was still in that goddamn store.

[00:60:25.900 – 00:60:35.500] And one day, I’m up at old Charlie Townes, who ran the Drunk Emporium where old Doc Silkworth was.

[00:60:35.500 – 00:60:43.100] Old Charlie, he’d been kind of skeptical about this drunk-fixing business, but all of a sudden he’d caught fire.

[00:60:43.100 – 00:60:52.800] So he called me into his office and he said, “Look here, Bill, I’m a business guy, but,” he said, “unlike some of these drunk tank proprietors, I’m a man with a heart.

[00:60:52.800 – 00:61:03.200] I guess I am.” And he said, “It looks to me like, uh, a lot of these drunks are getting well and they’re going back to work, and they, most of them are, are bright

[00:61:03.200 – 00:61:06.200] and they make good money, and you’re starving to death.

[00:61:06.200 – 00:61:07.700] Isn’t that right?” I said, “You bet your life.

[00:61:07.700 – 00:61:08.700] That’s, that’s just right.

[00:61:08.700 – 00:61:14.500] I’m starving to death and they’re getting along.” One of those days I felt sorry for myself, say.

[00:61:14.500 – 00:61:24.700] “Well,” he said, “Bill, ain’t it a fact that you had that, uh, funny spiritual experience in here in one of them front rooms?” “Yeah,” I said, “that’s a fact.”

[00:61:24.700 – 00:61:26.000] He said, “Ain’t it a fact that Dr.

[00:61:26.000 – 00:61:37.200] Silkworth was the odd guy who introduced the idea of sickness into this society of yours, and that that’s a cornerstone principle today?” “Yeah, that’s a fact.”

[00:61:37.200 – 00:61:48.300] “Well,” he said, “didn’t we let you come back here and visit drunks in the early days when the– incurred the ridicule of every doctor around New York City?” I said, “Yeah, that’s a fact.” “Well,”

[00:61:48.300 – 00:61:54.800] he said, “look, Bill,” he said, uh, “why shouldn’t you eat out of this?” “Well,” I said, “I’ve often wondered.

[00:61:54.800 – 00:62:02.800] I’ve tried to, but I can’t yet.” “Well,” he said, uh, he said, “here, I’m gonna make you an offer.” He said, “Now, look here.

[00:62:02.800 – 00:62:06.000] During 1929, this drunk tank used to make a lot of dough.

[00:62:06.000 – 00:62:08.700] That was the day of the stricken Wall Street stockbrokers.

[00:62:08.700 – 00:62:12.100] We used to make several thousand when this hospital was full.

[00:62:12.100 – 00:62:15.800] Now,” he said, “we’ve been having kind of hard going.

[00:62:15.800 – 00:62:16.600] It’s about breaking…”

[00:62:17.600 – 00:62:27.600] But he said, “Mark me, young guy, someday this movement of yours is going to fill Madison Square Garden, and I really believe it.” “Now,” he said,

[00:62:27.600 – 00:62:32.700] “since the movement started right in here, at least in part, why shouldn’t I give you an office here?

[00:62:32.700 – 00:62:40.700] Why shouldn’t I give you a drawing account in this place?” And he said, “I’ll go further.

[00:62:40.700 – 00:62:50.900] I’ll give you a third interest in the place if you’ll just come in here and make your headquarters in it.” He said, “There isn’t anything unethical about

[00:62:50.900 – 00:62:51.300] that.

[00:62:51.300 – 00:62:56.400] You could join my staff as a lay therapist, as indeed you are.

[00:62:56.400 – 00:62:59.700] You’ve done more for drunks already than, uh, anybody I know anything about.

[00:62:59.700 – 00:63:04.800] I won’t– I’ll, I’ll guarantee not to advertise you unethically.

[00:63:04.800 – 00:63:13.200] Why don’t you do it?” Well, I don’t mind saying, good like many A.A’s since I was tempted.

[00:63:13.200 – 00:63:17.400] There wasn’t anything unethical about it.

[00:63:17.400 – 00:63:18.700] It was quite all right.

[00:63:18.700 – 00:63:28.300] So excitedly I ran home, was cooking supper for a lot of them drunks we were boarding for nothing after a hard day in that damn department store.

[00:63:28.300 – 00:63:31.900] And I said, “Well, Mama, we’re going to eat.

[00:63:31.900 – 00:63:37.700] Going to go to work for old Charlie, have some kind of a head and tail to this thing, a little drawing account.

[00:63:37.700 – 00:63:47.500] If we fill up Charlie’s drunk tank, why, we might even get a thousand dollars a month cut up there someday.” Well, kind of sounded good to her.

[00:63:47.500 – 00:63:48.600] She was getting tired.

[00:63:48.600 – 00:63:55.200] The next night we had a meeting, a little A.A.

[00:63:55.200 – 00:63:55.500] meeting.

[00:63:55.500 – 00:63:56.700] Wasn’t even called an A.A.

[00:63:56.700 – 00:63:57.300] meeting then.

[00:63:57.300 – 00:64:00.100] We hadn’t coined a name down in the front parlor.

[00:64:00.100 – 00:64:05.800] By this time, I had got a wonderful rationalization.

[00:64:05.800 – 00:64:09.100] You know, we drunks are great on this phony rationalization business.

[00:64:09.100 – 00:64:16.000] And sad to relate, there is no nonsense which cannot be made out of even the Bible itself.

[00:64:16.000 – 00:64:20.200] And I’ve got this biblical reason for going to work for Charlie Town.

[00:64:20.200 – 00:64:23.300] And in this case, it certainly was a honey.

[00:64:23.300 – 00:64:27.100] The laborer is worthy of his hire.

[00:64:27.100 – 00:64:37.200] So I tell my, uh, drunk friends the

[00:64:37.200 – 00:64:46.800] wonderful story of how wouldn’t they be so glad to know that I’m going to be able to eat and Lois can come in out of that department store.

[00:64:46.800 – 00:64:49.300] We can hold up our heads like other folks.

[00:64:49.300 – 00:64:53.400] How nice it would be to have a headquarters up there.

[00:64:53.400 – 00:64:57.200] How good old Charlie and Dr.

[00:64:57.200 – 00:64:58.500] Silkworth have been to us.

[00:64:58.500 – 00:65:04.300] And I can just see the faces of those drunks fall, fall, fall, fall, fall.

[00:65:04.300 – 00:65:08.900] They knew we were having a damn hard time.

[00:65:08.900 – 00:65:12.600] They really hated to say anything to me.

[00:65:12.600 – 00:65:17.200] But finally one of them spoke up.

[00:65:17.200 – 00:65:23.900] And I since realized that he was speaking for the conscience of that group.

[00:65:23.900 – 00:65:27.500] And what did he say to me?

[00:65:27.500 – 00:65:38.700] He said, “But Bill, if you hire out to Charlie, you make yourself a professional doing therapeutic

[00:65:38.700 – 00:65:39.100] work.

[00:65:39.100 – 00:65:46.500] Bill, don’t you realize that if you tie this thing to that one hospital, that no other hospital will have anything to do with it?

[00:65:46.500 – 00:65:59.800] And Bill, don’t you realize this thing works because we ain’t got any professional guys?” And

[00:65:59.800 – 00:66:09.900] finally he said to me, “Bill, aren’t you the fellow who has so often sat in this meeting and told us

[00:66:09.900 – 00:66:14.800] that sometimes the good is not good enough?

[00:66:14.800 – 00:66:20.400] Sometimes the good is the enemy of the best.

[00:66:20.400 – 00:66:26.800] So what Charlie says is ethical, what he offers is ethical.

[00:66:26.800 – 00:66:36.800] But Bill, it isn’t good enough.” And then he looked at me and he said, “Bill, you can’t do this thing to us.”

[00:66:36.800 – 00:66:43.000] And so spoke the group conscience to me.

[00:66:43.000 – 00:66:48.800] And I suddenly realized that it was far wiser than I.

[00:66:48.800 – 00:66:59.500] And fortunately, oh, how very fortunately for this movement, I bowed to the group conscience

[00:66:59.500 – 00:67:00.700] and I obeyed.

[00:67:00.700 – 00:67:09.200] And from that day to this, I have realized that I am the pupil of this movement and not its teacher.

[00:67:09.200 – 00:67:17.800] Well, membership, we put that rule in reverse today.

[00:67:17.800 – 00:67:19.300] Any guy’s a member of A.A.

[00:67:19.300 – 00:67:20.200] who says he is.

[00:67:20.200 – 00:67:21.200] Can’t keep him out.

[00:67:21.200 – 00:67:26.500] I used to think I could run this whole movement, and now the A.A.

[00:67:26.500 – 00:67:32.500] tradition guarantees every group to run its business the way it wants to, as long as it doesn’t interfere with surrounding groups.

[00:67:32.500 – 00:67:41.400] Years ago, we had that foundation, uh, chartered to research and educate and do everything for drunks every place all the time.

[00:67:41.400 – 00:67:43.200] No more.

[00:67:43.200 – 00:67:46.300] We can’t endorse other enterprises.

[00:67:46.300 – 00:67:50.600] Other enterprises can’t use our name and raise money and get publicity out of the A.A.

[00:67:50.600 – 00:67:51.000] name.

[00:67:51.000 – 00:67:52.300] Took us years to learn that.

[00:67:52.300 – 00:67:55.200] We know that A.A.

[00:67:55.200 – 00:67:59.800] can devote itself to only one purpose, and that’s to carry the message to that other alcoholic.

[00:67:59.800 – 00:68:10.400] And from the very beginning, as by some deep instinct, we knew that this movement could never quarrel about the kind of things that society

[00:68:10.400 – 00:68:11.900] outside quarrels about.

[00:68:11.900 – 00:68:21.900] We knew that if we ever quarreled about religion here, if we ever quarreled about politics, if we ever permitted this society as a movement to

[00:68:21.900 – 00:68:24.500] become rich, we would be done.

[00:68:24.500 – 00:68:27.500] So in A.A.

[00:68:27.500 – 00:68:38.900] we squabble about, well, how you’re going to fix the clubhouse, and how you’re going to do the most good for drunks, and sometimes

[00:68:38.900 – 00:68:41.600] who slept with who, and all that kind of thing.

[00:68:41.600 – 00:68:44.600] We don’t quarrel about politics and religion and reform.

[00:68:44.600 – 00:68:45.700] No, no, no.

[00:68:45.700 – 00:68:46.700] We know we can’t.

[00:68:46.700 – 00:68:52.500] So came our non-controversy tradition.

[00:68:52.500 – 00:69:03.000] And all this time, we found that our usual traditional American

[00:69:03.000 – 00:69:07.800] attitude about public relations was being put right in reverse.

[00:69:07.800 – 00:69:13.000] In this beloved land of ours, we love to have our public heroes.

[00:69:13.000 – 00:69:16.700] We erect great monuments to great people.

[00:69:16.700 – 00:69:23.300] Even our advertising is run on personal ballyhoos.

[00:69:23.300 – 00:69:25.500] But we of A.A.

[00:69:25.500 – 00:69:27.900] have discovered over the years that is not for us.

[00:69:27.900 – 00:69:33.100] And we began to say, “Let us place principles before people.

[00:69:33.100 – 00:69:43.100] Let us remain anonymous at the public level.” And over the years, we’ve discovered that anonymity is not only a protection for the people coming

[00:69:43.100 – 00:69:50.500] in, it has a deep spiritual significance.

[00:69:50.500 – 00:69:53.300] It betokens our individual and our group humility.

[00:69:53.300 – 00:69:57.700] The willingness to put this thing ahead of our own welfare.

[00:69:57.700 – 00:70:07.900] And we have also laterally learned that it is the greatest protection against exploitation that this society can ever have,

[00:70:07.900 – 00:70:09.700] anonymity at the public level.

[00:70:09.700 – 00:70:19.700] And so, dear people, in these exciting years of adolescence, we have developed a tradition which

[00:70:19.700 – 00:70:21.900] indeed is no body of law.

[00:70:21.900 – 00:70:27.400] There are no rules or regulations.

[00:70:27.400 – 00:70:37.400] But we have learned that in a tradition, confirmed in the heart of each one of us and in our experience of A.A., in such a tradition, there

[00:70:37.400 – 00:70:39.200] is immense containing power.

[00:70:39.200 – 00:70:47.800] And we are now becoming confident that in the application of that tradition in our daily A.A.

[00:70:47.800 – 00:70:57.900] lives, that we have a force of incomparable power which can bind this movement together, which may

[00:70:57.900 – 00:71:04.100] keep us proof against the forces of destruction that rend other societies of men apart.

[00:71:04.100 – 00:71:07.900] The world around us is breaking into pieces.

[00:71:07.900 – 00:71:10.800] Society is fissioning, splitting up into bits.

[00:71:10.800 – 00:71:13.000] As A.A.

[00:71:13.000 – 00:71:17.100] grows, we are getting more and more and more unified.

[00:71:17.100 – 00:71:20.000] I don’t mean that we are complacent.

[00:71:20.000 – 00:71:23.200] I think we should be prudent.

[00:71:23.200 – 00:71:30.700] We must realize that someday we may have to face this religious issue, that political issue, that reform issue.

[00:71:30.700 – 00:71:34.600] We shall have great problems that’ll cut across this movement.

[00:71:34.600 – 00:71:35.700] Of course we shall.

[00:71:35.700 – 00:71:42.500] All societies of men have those problems, and all societies of men today are succumbing to those problems.

[00:71:42.500 – 00:71:52.800] But in 1950, only last summer in Cleveland, seven thousand of us there concluded that

[00:71:52.800 – 00:71:58.800] the tradition of Alcoholics Anonymous is a platform on which we dare commit this movement to its future.

[00:71:58.800 – 00:72:09.000] And there in Cleveland, that nineteen hundred and fifty, we took our destiny by the hand and declared that this movement had grown up.

[00:72:09.000 – 00:72:16.100] So those are the first two of the legacies which we old-timers are leaving you.

[00:72:16.100 – 00:72:24.900] A legacy of recovery by the 12 Steps, and a legacy of unity by application of the A.A.

[00:72:24.900 – 00:72:25.400] tradition.

[00:72:25.400 – 00:72:35.600] Now, this concludes the first two sections of this yarn I’m spinning, and I suggest that, uh, we now have

[00:72:35.600 – 00:72:37.100] a five-minute intermission.

[00:72:37.100 – 00:72:39.300] Don’t go running out, ’cause you can never get back-

[00:72:39.500 – 00:72:41.400] drunks back to get the yakking out there.

[00:72:41.400 – 00:72:47.300] But stretch yourselves a little bit and then I’ll pour on the last, uh, installment a little faster.

[00:72:47.300 – 00:73:02.400] So

[00:73:02.400 – 00:73:12.400] now we have finished that exciting, pleasant, and very dramatic journey through our beginning,

[00:73:12.400 – 00:73:22.400] through the days of our adolescence, and now you and I stand looking ahead together along the

[00:73:22.400 – 00:73:25.600] broad highway that is A.A.

[00:73:25.600 – 00:73:37.000] Next to our own recovery, it is, of course, the dearest wish of each of us that

[00:73:37.000 – 00:73:48.200] this society remain in unity and in the greatest possible effectiveness in the cause of the many who don’t yet know for

[00:73:48.200 – 00:73:49.900] so long as it shall be needed.

[00:73:49.900 – 00:74:00.500] Since the very beginning, there has been a principle

[00:74:00.500 – 00:74:05.800] in operation which sometimes we overlook.

[00:74:05.800 – 00:74:15.800] And it is my prime purpose in coming here to elevate that principle so that it stands alongside

[00:74:15.800 – 00:74:20.600] of our recovery principle and our principle of traditions.

[00:74:20.600 – 00:74:23.200] For A.A.

[00:74:23.200 – 00:74:28.600] is something more than just a belief in the 12 principles of recovery.

[00:74:28.600 – 00:74:30.500] A.A.

[00:74:30.500 – 00:74:34.400] is something a great deal more than a belief in the traditions.

[00:74:34.400 – 00:74:36.800] If A.A.

[00:74:36.800 – 00:74:41.400] is anything, Alcoholics Anonymous is a program of action.

[00:74:41.400 – 00:74:50.600] When the drunk takes a look at those 12 steps, if he would recover, he has to do something about them.

[00:74:50.600 – 00:75:00.700] If we have a body of tradition and would remain in unity and usefulness, each individual and each group,

[00:75:00.700 – 00:75:03.300] each area, and A.A.

[00:75:03.300 – 00:75:07.500] as a whole has to do something about these things.

[00:75:07.500 – 00:75:09.700] So A.A.

[00:75:09.700 – 00:75:11.100] is a program of action.

[00:75:11.100 – 00:75:15.800] And anything which enables A.A.

[00:75:15.800 – 00:75:22.500] to act, to function, we are coming to call a service.

[00:75:22.500 – 00:75:25.400] Therefore, A.A.

[00:75:25.400 – 00:75:26.700] consists of recovery.

[00:75:26.700 – 00:75:37.000] It consists of tradition, but it also consists of activity, and many of those activities take the form

[00:75:37.000 – 00:75:38.100] of services.

[00:75:38.100 – 00:75:46.300] As I just said, a service is anything that legitimately enables A.A.

[00:75:46.300 – 00:75:50.500] to function and to grow and to propagate itself.

[00:75:50.500 – 00:76:01.400] For example, when the first doctor told me what alcoholism was, he

[00:76:01.400 – 00:76:06.400] performed a great service for this movement, although he himself is not a member.

[00:76:06.400 – 00:76:12.400] When he encouraged me to come and work in his hospital, he performed a great service.

[00:76:12.400 – 00:76:17.600] When he sobered me up, he rendered me the service of hospitalization.

[00:76:17.600 – 00:76:22.300] For A.A., you must remember, is no monopoly of we alcoholics.

[00:76:22.300 – 00:76:26.400] We draw from the principles of religion.

[00:76:26.400 – 00:76:29.700] We draw upon the principles of medicine.

[00:76:29.700 – 00:76:33.100] Together we can do what we could not do separately.

[00:76:33.100 – 00:76:43.600] I suppose one of the very earliest services performed for A.A., and it is still the biggest service that is performed

[00:76:43.600 – 00:76:50.000] in a, in a money sense, and I don’t know, but in a real sense.

[00:76:50.000 – 00:77:02.800] When Lois Wilson and Annie Smith brewed those first pots of coffee and baked those cakes for the drunks out in the living room, those

[00:77:02.800 – 00:77:05.700] women were doing something that helped A.A.

[00:77:05.700 – 00:77:06.300] to function.

[00:77:06.300 – 00:77:14.600] I was guest tonight, among many others, at a dinner given by a friend and his wife.

[00:77:14.600 – 00:77:22.100] That was a service that greased the wheels of progress, that helped A.A.

[00:77:22.100 – 00:77:22.600] function.

[00:77:22.600 – 00:77:30.900] So anything legitimate that helps us to function, which doesn’t violate our traditions, is a service.

[00:77:30.900 – 00:77:40.200] Now today, you’ll hear a cry which rings all throughout A.A., and I hope it never stops ringing.

[00:77:40.200 – 00:77:41.800] People say, “Let’s keep A.A.

[00:77:41.800 – 00:77:42.300] simple.

[00:77:42.300 – 00:77:48.300] Beware of organization.” The least possible organization.

[00:77:48.300 – 00:77:57.300] But I draw your attention that since the beginning, we found that too much simplicity could presently result in great complications.

[00:77:57.300 – 00:78:07.100] When those meetings got too big for parlors and we had to move out into halls, A.A.

[00:78:07.100 – 00:78:08.900] got a little bit more complicated.

[00:78:08.900 – 00:78:10.700] It wasn’t quite so simple.

[00:78:10.700 – 00:78:15.700] In the parlors, there weren’t any founders, there weren’t any officers, there wasn’t any money.

[00:78:15.700 – 00:78:18.000] It was utterly simple.

[00:78:18.000 – 00:78:21.200] But supposing A.A.

[00:78:21.200 – 00:78:25.600] had been in parlors ever since and no services had been provided.

[00:78:25.600 – 00:78:29.000] Well, we moved out of parlors into halls.

[00:78:29.000 – 00:78:36.900] Then we discovered, sometimes to our pious indignation, that landlords wanted rent for places to sit down in.

[00:78:36.900 – 00:78:39.800] So that brought in the subject of money.

[00:78:39.800 – 00:78:42.600] And then somebody had to pass the hat.

[00:78:42.600 – 00:78:52.700] A fellow informally passed the hat, and the old-timer who stuck the money in his pocket and handed it to the landlord, he gave way to a treasurer, which your group probably

[00:78:52.700 – 00:78:53.300] elects.

[00:78:53.300 – 00:78:56.400] Or if it’s a club, you elect it.

[00:78:56.400 – 00:79:00.300] And then there got to be something called a secretary.

[00:79:00.300 – 00:79:06.900] Sometimes a hell of a row, it was the girl with the blue hair or the girl with the green hair, but at any rate, you got yourself a secretary.

[00:79:06.900 – 00:79:11.700] She’d answer the phone maybe and write some letters down and get some books.

[00:79:11.700 – 00:79:15.500] By and by, your group m- or your club, it has a chairman.

[00:79:15.500 – 00:79:22.400] He looks after arrangements and maybe visits the local newspaper and gets in contact with the doctors.

[00:79:22.400 – 00:79:33.800] In other words, we began to develop a class of service people who did not govern AA and who never will, because

[00:79:33.800 – 00:79:40.400] it is certainly no blasphemy to say that even God couldn’t govern a bunch of drunks.

[00:79:40.400 – 00:79:50.500] But the drunks will and must name people to perform chores so that the group can

[00:79:50.500 – 00:79:51.000] function.

[00:79:51.000 – 00:79:53.600] Is that not obvious?

[00:79:53.600 – 00:79:56.000] And we have been really doing this since the beginning.

[00:79:56.000 – 00:80:04.600] True enough, those service jobs, even the volunteer ones, are thankless ones, but they get done.

[00:80:04.600 – 00:80:09.100] Well, when you get a lot of groups in an area, what happens?

[00:80:09.100 – 00:80:13.100] Gotta have a little head or tail to it.

[00:80:13.100 – 00:80:17.600] The original group can’t be permitted to run everything.

[00:80:17.600 – 00:80:19.100] You don’t like that.

[00:80:19.100 – 00:80:27.100] So by and by, each one of your groups names a representative, and you have some kind of a central service or intergroup association.

[00:80:27.100 – 00:80:35.200] Finally, you probably hire a little office and put in a phone and hire one guy or a gal or even two or three of them in big places.

[00:80:35.200 – 00:80:43.300] So several hundred or several thousand drunks in a area will have actually one– a paid employee or two.

[00:80:43.300 – 00:80:50.300] Well, when that happens, there’s an awful lot of grinding of the wheels and a hell of a commotion.

[00:80:50.300 – 00:80:57.500] Great cries of professionalism go up, and the person that’s hired, you think they’re AA professionals.

[00:80:57.500 – 00:81:01.400] Years ago, we commenced to thrash all that out.

[00:81:01.400 – 00:81:08.000] I remember the first time we had this AA professionalism business come up.

[00:81:08.000 – 00:81:16.000] We’d, uh, started a little club up there in New York, first AA clubhouse in the world.

[00:81:16.000 – 00:81:17.800] A little bit of a place.

[00:81:17.800 – 00:81:26.900] Volunteers came in, and they scrubbed, and they painted, and gals hung up little chintz curtains, and gee, it was clubby, you know?

[00:81:26.900 – 00:81:30.100] Everything went along fine for a while.

[00:81:30.100 – 00:81:35.200] The volunteers did everything, except for the landlord, of course, who had to be paid.

[00:81:35.200 – 00:81:37.200] We couldn’t mix any money with this.

[00:81:37.200 – 00:81:43.900] Well, after a while, the volunteer folks, they kind of bogged down a little.

[00:81:43.900 – 00:81:54.000] The floor didn’t get swept, and there were drunks laying around the place much too drunk, and it was even said that other people were laying around

[00:81:54.000 – 00:81:54.600] the place.

[00:81:54.600 – 00:81:59.700] It was obvious we had to have somebody there all the time.

[00:81:59.700 – 00:82:07.300] So we had in mind a good old guy that we just got out of one of the insanest islands.

[00:82:07.300 – 00:82:09.200] We got over our jitters about that.

[00:82:09.200 – 00:82:13.200] He was an ex-fireman, New York City Fire Department.

[00:82:13.200 – 00:82:15.700] An old-time mohawk, had been around in his day.

[00:82:15.700 – 00:82:22.200] So we said, “Why, now, it’ll be just wonderful to get old Tom to come over here to the club and live.

[00:82:22.200 – 00:82:31.400] He could kind of look after things, you know?” So we approached old Tom, and we said, “Tom, uh, how would you like to come over to the clubhouse?

[00:82:31.400 – 00:82:35.900] We’ll give you a free room over there, Tom.” Tom says, “What’s the angle?

[00:82:35.900 – 00:82:42.000] What’s the angle?” “Well, Tom, we’d like to have you move over to the clubhouse.

[00:82:42.000 – 00:82:52.400] If we gave you a room and you were right there on the, on the spot, you could kind of look after things a little.” He said, “What do you mean look after things?” “Well,” we said, “the floor gotta be swept every day here, and if the volunteers

[00:82:52.400 – 00:82:54.300] ain’t around, you gotta answer the telephone.

[00:82:54.300 – 00:83:01.100] And, uh, naturally, in the wintertime, you had to fire the furnace.” Tom says, “Seven days a week for all this?” “Yeah.”

[00:83:02.400 – 00:83:05.900] Uh, then time is drunks get too drunk.

[00:83:05.900 – 00:83:09.300] You know, you have to lead them outside.

[00:83:09.300 – 00:83:19.300] Well, Tom says, “Ain’t you going to pay me nothing?” “Oh, no,” we said, “You, we could, you couldn’t make money out of

[00:83:19.300 – 00:83:20.700] Alcoholics Anonymous, Tom.

[00:83:20.700 – 00:83:22.400] Oh, God, no.

[00:83:22.400 – 00:83:31.500] Money will ruin this thing, Tom.” Tom looked at us with a very fishy eye and he said, “I think you guys have got a hell of a nerve.

[00:83:31.500 – 00:83:35.000] I think you’ve got a hell of a nerve.

[00:83:35.000 – 00:83:37.000] What you guys really want is a janitor.

[00:83:37.000 – 00:83:46.800] Is that right?” He says, “What in hell has that got to do with that 12th Step?” He said, “I think you guys have got a big nerve.

[00:83:46.800 – 00:83:55.700] You, you, you all come in here and you use this clubhouse and you can’t or you won’t sweep it out, and you won’t tend to the furnace, and you won’t get down here and answer this phone.

[00:83:55.700 – 00:84:05.800] So you want me to come in and be a janitor for you for nothing, to do that which you want or can’t do yourself while you go out and make good living, huh?” “Oh,” we

[00:84:05.800 – 00:84:15.900] said, “but Tom, you got a pension from the fire department.” He says, “What’s that got to do with it?” He says, “What you want is a janitor, and if I’m coming in here to be a janitor, you’re going to pay me for being a janitor.

[00:84:15.900 – 00:84:17.700] I do me 12th Step work.

[00:84:17.700 – 00:84:29.800] You ain’t paying me nothing for that, but you’re going to pay me for being a janitor or I don’t come, see?” Well,

[00:84:29.800 – 00:84:35.700] it took us years and years and years to learn that that old boy was absolutely right.

[00:84:35.700 – 00:84:46.100] In other words, here were we, who were out making good livings, drawing good pay as a direct result of Alcoholics Anonymous,

[00:84:46.100 – 00:84:56.200] and here were we trying to coerce this old gent into contributing about $100 a month worth of labor to that club

[00:84:56.200 – 00:85:00.500] when most of us weren’t giving the club $5 a month.

[00:85:00.500 – 00:85:03.700] It wasn’t even Christian.

[00:85:03.700 – 00:85:07.200] Why did we take that attitude?

[00:85:07.200 – 00:85:17.600] One, because we were afraid of professionalism, and two, because we had made the unhappy discovery that though drunks are individually generous,

[00:85:17.600 – 00:85:20.700] collectively, people, they’re tight as the bark on a tree.

[00:85:20.700 – 00:85:29.200] And we actually beat that poor old guy down to half price to get him in there, too.

[00:85:29.200 – 00:85:39.200] Well, little by little, this society has learned that when it needs to hire a janitor,

[00:85:39.200 – 00:85:47.300] when it needs to hire a secretary, and pardon me, when it needs to hire an author, it ought to pay up.

[00:85:47.300 – 00:85:57.600] And that doesn’t make an author or a janitor or a secretary a professional AA, too, if they got a legitimate job to do over and above that 12th

[00:85:57.600 – 00:85:58.000] Step.

[00:85:58.000 – 00:86:01.700] One thing we learned to do, you cannot sell that 12th Step for money.

[00:86:01.700 – 00:86:12.000] But if we’re going to ask somebody to work full time for this society, we ought to pay them, and we ought to pay them, if our group is able to pay them, the going commercial

[00:86:12.000 – 00:86:12.400] rate.

[00:86:12.400 – 00:86:20.100] Otherwise, we’re forcing a money contribution out of those people that we wouldn’t make ourself.

[00:86:20.100 – 00:86:26.000] So the line got drawn on this professionalism, and that’s where it now stands.

[00:86:26.000 – 00:86:29.700] We don’t say work cheap for AA.

[00:86:29.700 – 00:86:33.700] If we got the money, we’ll pay you like we would any non-alcoholic we’d have to hire.

[00:86:33.700 – 00:86:38.700] It’s taken years to evolve that, but thank God it’s now here.

[00:86:38.700 – 00:86:42.400] And thank heaven our bills of that kind are very small.

[00:86:42.400 – 00:86:47.600] And thank heaven there aren’t even a handful in the AA who are paid for these special services.

[00:86:47.600 – 00:86:50.300] And the number never can be very large.

[00:86:50.300 – 00:86:52.000] Well, to continue.

[00:86:52.000 – 00:86:58.600] Then the club found that it had to have a committee or a board to run it.

[00:86:58.600 – 00:87:02.700] It found, as a club, it found it had to have a janitor.

[00:87:02.700 – 00:87:04.900] The office found it had to have a secretary.

[00:87:04.900 – 00:87:10.900] The area found that it had to name representatives to get together to choose a committee to look after its office.

[00:87:10.900 – 00:87:22.000] And those things represented services that enable this society to function and to grow, without

[00:87:22.000 – 00:87:24.700] which it just simply couldn’t function and grow.

[00:87:24.700 – 00:87:28.700] In fact, it could fall into decay and into confusion.

[00:87:28.700 – 00:87:33.600] Too much simplicity would soon make for too much complication.

[00:87:33.600 – 00:87:43.600] Now, I think we all ought to distinguish between any effort to organize the AA movement and an effort to organize these simple

[00:87:43.600 – 00:87:45.500] services so they’ll stand up and work.

[00:87:45.500 – 00:87:49.000] You cannot organize a bunch of drunks.

[00:87:49.000 – 00:87:53.200] Alcoholics Anonymous can never have a government.

[00:87:53.200 – 00:87:53.800] Why?

[00:87:53.800 – 00:87:56.800] Because drunks simply won’t be governed by print– people.

[00:87:56.800 – 00:88:06.900] If anything characterizes us, it has been a lifelong history of disobedience to people, to governments, to principles,

[00:88:06.900 – 00:88:08.400] to everything.

[00:88:08.400 – 00:88:12.600] Well, now when we get into AA, we become obedient, all right.

[00:88:12.600 – 00:88:15.400] But we don’t become obedient to our fellow AA.

[00:88:15.400 – 00:88:16.900] We become obedient to God.

[00:88:16.900 – 00:88:20.300] We become obedient to a principle.

[00:88:20.300 – 00:88:32.000] I’ll say this, that if we have 100 AAs three years ago who are breaking their anonymity every day of the week, and that list has now come down to only a half a dozen, and

[00:88:32.000 – 00:88:42.200] you got a society with 100,000 screwball egocentrics in it, and only six of them are breaking their anonymity publicly as a regular thing, I say that that’s a tremendous

[00:88:42.200 – 00:88:43.200] amount of obedience.

[00:88:43.200 – 00:88:45.300] But it’s not obedience to a people.

[00:88:45.300 – 00:88:47.000] It’s obedience to a principle.

[00:88:47.000 – 00:88:52.600] So this society does have the theological virtue of obedience.

[00:88:52.600 – 00:88:57.500] But happily, it is not necessary for us ever to be obedient to a government.

[00:88:57.500 – 00:89:02.700] Therefore, AA will never be organized in a governmental sense.

[00:89:02.700 – 00:89:08.500] But we do have to organize these services, these clubs, these offices.

[00:89:08.500 – 00:89:13.500] A book doesn’t get published just by accident.

[00:89:13.500 – 00:89:14.800] Somebody has to look after it.

[00:89:14.800 – 00:89:25.100] So you see, my dear friends, all throughout our history, from the coffee and cake days up, we have had to construct

[00:89:25.100 – 00:89:25.800] services.

[00:89:25.800 – 00:89:29.000] People have had to do special jobs to help us to function.

[00:89:29.000 – 00:89:39.100] And my purpose is to make this idea of services and those services respectable, and to get us to feel collectively responsible to see that they go

[00:89:39.100 – 00:89:45.800] on, because if they don’t, AA won’t go on in its present form, and the million who don’t know will suffer acutely.

[00:89:45.800 – 00:89:52.300] Now, years ago, anticipating a need, Dr.

[00:89:52.300 – 00:89:59.600] Bob and I realized that this movement would surely need a few services for the benefit of the whole.

[00:89:59.600 – 00:90:09.800] In other words, we knew that this movement would need a standard literature, hence the terrific effort to produce that book,

[00:90:09.800 – 00:90:14.600] our first great instrument of service to the whole of AA.

[00:90:14.600 – 00:90:22.500] As we told you, we constructed a committee of friends called the Alcoholic Foundation, along with some of us drunks.

[00:90:22.500 – 00:90:32.800] As I explained last night by and by, this book, which a few of us got together and financed and produced, was turned over

[00:90:32.800 – 00:90:39.500] to that board of trustees who hold that book, Alcoholics Anonymous, in trust for you, the members of AA.

[00:90:39.500 – 00:90:40.400] They own it.

[00:90:40.400 – 00:90:42.900] It is your book, held by them in trust.

[00:90:42.900 – 00:90:46.500] An instrument for the whole movement.

[00:90:46.500 – 00:90:49.600] Well, it is a question of holding the book.

[00:90:49.600 – 00:90:51.200] They have to get it printed.

[00:90:51.200 – 00:90:54.500] Twenty-five thousand copies a year.

[00:90:54.500 – 00:90:56.500] Somebody has to look after it.

[00:90:56.500 – 00:91:06.500] Well, in the very early days of AA, when the Saturday Post article came along, our little office of the first year or two was

[00:91:06.500 – 00:91:09.000] entirely supported by the sales of that book.

[00:91:09.000 – 00:91:12.900] Not me, just a gal and the rent.

[00:91:12.900 – 00:91:21.700] Then later, when that Post article came on, we had thousands of inquiries pouring in.

[00:91:21.700 – 00:91:27.000] The book sales wouldn’t hire us girls enough to answer those frantic letters.

[00:91:27.000 – 00:91:37.300] So we came out to the groups of that day in 1941 and said, “Look, shall we throw all these pleas into the wastebasket?

[00:91:37.300 – 00:91:42.800] Or will you, the members of AA, come and help us answer these letters?

[00:91:42.800 – 00:91:45.400] Refer them to the nearest group.

[00:91:45.400 – 00:91:49.800] Help them start groups if they– in the mail if they’re near no one else.

[00:91:49.800 – 00:91:51.800] Supply them with the literature.

[00:91:51.800 – 00:92:02.800] Will you voluntarily contribute to this foundation so that they can maintain this office in which that job can be done?” So in 1941,

[00:92:02.800 – 00:92:13.000] just as a rough measuring stick, we said to this movement, “If you people will give us a dollar a piece a year down here at the foundation, we will see that all of these inquiries

[00:92:13.000 – 00:92:13.600] are answered.

[00:92:13.600 – 00:92:23.600] Meanwhile, the book can pay off its debt and maybe accumulate a little reserve.” So that’s– that was the second step in

[00:92:23.600 – 00:92:24.500] the evolution.

[00:92:24.500 – 00:92:29.900] Then the foundation had two kinds of money, book money and your money, which could only be spent on the office.

[00:92:29.900 – 00:92:37.700] Well, next thing you know, uh, right after that Post, uh, article, back came all these group problems.

[00:92:37.700 – 00:92:39.100] What do we do about this?

[00:92:39.100 – 00:92:40.300] What do we do about that?

[00:92:40.300 – 00:92:41.700] From all over the world.

[00:92:41.700 – 00:92:45.200] So then we began to be retailers of experience.

[00:92:45.200 – 00:92:55.500] From the older groups, we could say to the newer groups, “Well, their experience tells us this.” So we helped propagate the movement and helped organize new groups

[00:92:55.500 – 00:92:56.300] at a distance.

[00:92:56.300 – 00:93:02.400] A work which is not going on so much on this side of the water because there’s so many of you.

[00:93:02.400 – 00:93:04.100] One now takes fire from the other.

[00:93:04.100 – 00:93:06.800] But all over the world, we’re still doing that.

[00:93:06.800 – 00:93:16.800] If you go to London, England, or Oslo, Norway, or Durban, South Africa, or to that northernmost group in Alaska, they’ll tell you what

[00:93:16.800 – 00:93:18.800] the Alcoholic Foundation means to them.

[00:93:18.800 – 00:93:19.900] It is life.

[00:93:19.900 – 00:93:24.700] It is their only contact with this world that you and I know so well.

[00:93:28.000 – 00:93:29.800] So the office took on another function.

[00:93:29.800 – 00:93:40.200] Well then, pretty soon the problem arose, uh, hasn’t this society got to have some kind of a public relations

[00:93:40.200 – 00:93:40.700] policy?

[00:93:40.700 – 00:93:43.600] I’ll tell you how we got thinking about that.

[00:93:43.600 – 00:93:44.500] It’s a good yarn.

[00:93:44.500 – 00:93:52.300] There was an AA, uh, who caught fire by reading the book in the mail.

[00:93:52.300 – 00:93:53.700] We started to correspond with him.

[00:93:53.700 – 00:93:55.500] He was down there in Jacksonville, Florida.

[00:93:55.500 – 00:93:58.600] And he was one of those super promoters.

[00:93:58.600 – 00:94:08.800] I guess he was a couple supers above me, because all of a sudden he was on the Jacksonville radio with a curious mixture of AA and some shouting brand of religion.

[00:94:08.800 – 00:94:09.800] I don’t know which one.

[00:94:09.800 – 00:94:17.300] And sure enough, he got in a few inquiries into Jacksonville over that little station, and a group starts in Jacksonville.

[00:94:17.300 – 00:94:25.800] So he beats on his chest, and all of a sudden he writes a letter up to the foundation office and he said, “I got a contract with the Gulf Life Insurance Company.

[00:94:25.800 – 00:94:29.200] They’re going to hire me as a broadcaster.

[00:94:29.200 – 00:94:39.300] They’re going to put me on a, an all-American hookup, about 100 stations, to give my 13 lectures on Alcoholics Anonymous, and here

[00:94:39.300 – 00:94:43.600] is the script.” My God, I looked at the scripts and they stunk.

[00:94:43.600 – 00:94:44.400] They were terrible.

[00:94:44.400 – 00:94:54.900] Well, then the issue arose: could any AA member appoint himself to stand up on a national hookup, uh, national radio network

[00:94:54.900 – 00:94:58.200] to represent all of us by just appointing himself to do the job?

[00:94:58.200 – 00:95:01.100] And this damn script stunk.

[00:95:01.100 – 00:95:03.000] What could we do about it?

[00:95:03.000 – 00:95:13.000] So I write him a nice diplomatic letter and I say, “Well, of course it’s wonderful your talk started the group in Jacksonville, but I don’t

[00:95:13.000 – 00:95:16.000] think the drunks around through the country would, would like that.

[00:95:16.000 – 00:95:19.200] Frankly, some of it isn’t, uh, on the AA party line.

[00:95:19.200 – 00:95:23.800] Why, I wouldn’t even dare take the responsibility you’re taking.

[00:95:23.800 – 00:95:27.100] You’re going to break your anonymity, you tell me.

[00:95:27.100 – 00:95:30.500] You’ve got to tell that, uh, this is your message to the drunks of America.

[00:95:30.500 – 00:95:40.000] Besides, you’re going to get paid for this job by the Gulf Life Insurance Company, and your scripts aren’t really straight AA, frankly.

[00:95:40.000 – 00:95:50.000] Why don’t you consult with our board of trustees and maybe we can revamp this thing and maybe get it authorized?” Well, he was a

[00:95:50.000 – 00:96:00.100] super promoter, you know, in his own right, and so he writes me a very crusty letter in which he said, “To hell with you,

[00:96:00.100 – 00:96:00.300] Mr.

[00:96:00.300 – 00:96:02.700] Wilson, and the board of trustees.

[00:96:02.700 – 00:96:04.400] Who do you think you are?

[00:96:04.400 – 00:96:06.000] This is America.

[00:96:06.000 – 00:96:07.900] I got a right of free speech,” says he.

[00:96:07.900 – 00:96:12.300] All right, that brought us right square up with the issue.

[00:96:12.300 – 00:96:15.600] Did this movement have any control whatever about what was said about it?

[00:96:15.600 – 00:96:25.600] Could any AA nominimself– nominate himself to represent us all in a, in a matter as vital as that, which would affect the lives of hundreds and maybe thousands

[00:96:25.600 – 00:96:26.100] of people?

[00:96:26.100 – 00:96:36.600] Well, uh, so I wrote him back a letter and I said, “Like Voltaire, I would be the first, my dear friend,

[00:96:36.600 – 00:96:40.600] to defend your right of freedom of speech.

[00:96:40.600 – 00:96:50.600] But if I’m going to defend your right to speak freely, I will see to it that the several thousand AAs in this country speak their mind very

[00:96:50.600 – 00:96:53.700] freely on this broadcast of yours if you put it on.

[00:96:53.700 – 00:97:03.800] And I will suggest to them that they write letters to your sponsor, the Gulf Life Insurance Company and the Mutual Broadcasting Company, telling them just what they think about

[00:97:03.800 – 00:97:05.300] that lousy script of yours.

[00:97:05.300 – 00:97:11.500] You’re still at liberty to put it on, but if you do, look out for this free, free speech from these drunks.

[00:97:11.500 – 00:97:18.900] And when about three thousand of them get talking loud, you’ll really hear it.” Well, we didn’t have any broadcasts from down there.

[00:97:18.900 – 00:97:21.900] But that raised a problem.

[00:97:21.900 – 00:97:25.400] Was anybody going to be appointed to look after such matters?

[00:97:25.400 – 00:97:35.600] So years ago, I wrote the groups of that time and said, “Will you entrust these trustees of the foundation with power to overlook

[00:97:35.600 – 00:97:41.500] our public relations?” Local public relations, any group can do anything it likes.

[00:97:41.500 – 00:97:51.600] But when we got a piece in the Saturday Post or a national broadcast or a motion picture, won’t you name this

[00:97:51.600 – 00:97:55.900] board of trustees to look after these things through your office here in New York?

[00:97:55.900 – 00:98:01.000] And you wrote in and you gave us control of your public relations.

[00:98:01.000 – 00:98:09.900] I don’t mean a legal control, but a tradition has grown up that AAs, if they’re going to do a job like that, come to us and be sure that it’s right.

[00:98:09.900 – 00:98:15.600] So now, by now, the board of trustees has come into control of your book.

[00:98:15.600 – 00:98:19.000] It’s come into control of your propagation machinery.

[00:98:19.000 – 00:98:22.100] It’s come into control of your pamphlet literature.

[00:98:22.100 – 00:98:30.100] It, it, it controls the clearing of thousands of inquiries every year, not only from drunks, but from God knows how many people.

[00:98:30.100 – 00:98:35.100] Last year, that office answered seventy-eight thousand letters.

[00:98:35.100 – 00:98:38.200] That’s a lot of mail.

[00:98:38.200 – 00:98:40.400] So is AA going to answer its mail?

[00:98:40.400 – 00:98:41.600] Well, guess it is.

[00:98:41.600 – 00:98:47.100] Well, then, uh, other services developed up there.

[00:98:47.100 – 00:98:54.900] It began to be obvious that the foreign groups had to have translations of all our pamphlet literature, and maybe finally of our book.

[00:98:54.900 – 00:98:58.600] The book needed to be done in Oslo, Norway.

[00:98:58.600 – 00:99:00.400] It needed to be done in, in England.

[00:99:00.400 – 00:99:02.000] They couldn’t buy books here.

[00:99:02.000 – 00:99:05.800] Lois and I went abroad last summer to arrange that.

[00:99:05.800 – 00:99:10.600] Now, this matter of public relations is terrifically important.

[00:99:10.600 – 00:99:13.500] Before I leave that subject, let me just tell you two more stories.

[00:99:13.500 – 00:99:23.000] Recently, on the newsstand here, you could buy a magazine called Fortune, kind of a flossy dollar businessman’s magazine.

[00:99:23.000 – 00:99:29.800] Some of you picked that up, and you saw in it one of the best articles on Alcoholics Anonymous ever printed.

[00:99:29.800 – 00:99:39.800] And you probably said, “Well, that’s a nice piece.” You didn’t know, of course, that our office spent hours and hours and hours

[00:99:39.800 – 00:99:41.200] with the guy who wrote that piece.

[00:99:41.200 – 00:99:51.300] You didn’t know the guy himself was the vice president of Fortune and a damn good AA, but that he had to come over to our office to get background and, and to get the

[00:99:51.300 – 00:99:54.300] idea on the tradition and all the stuff that’s in that piece.

[00:99:54.300 – 00:100:02.700] You didn’t know we spent some of your money, long-distance calls to his home in Florida, that some of the Fortune staff were over and we had a conference about it.

[00:100:02.700 – 00:100:06.100] That’s why it was a good piece.

[00:100:06.100 – 00:100:10.800] It’s because somebody was looking after these things for you.

[00:100:10.800 – 00:100:15.500] You see, a lot of these services have been unknown, they’ve been unseen to you.

[00:100:15.500 – 00:100:25.900] AA has a good public relations record, sure, because we mind our own business, but also because somebody all these years have been looking after these things for you.

[00:100:25.900 – 00:100:29.300] Let me give you one more example.

[00:100:29.300 – 00:100:32.600] Of course, AAs are everyplace.

[00:100:32.600 – 00:100:36.000] One of them happens to be a producer in the Paramount company.

[00:100:36.000 – 00:100:41.600] Another producer in the company, uh, started to produce a picture about Alcoholics Anonymous.

[00:100:41.600 – 00:100:44.300] He had his script written.

[00:100:44.300 – 00:100:45.900] It was called Mr.

[00:100:45.900 – 00:100:46.300] and Mrs.

[00:100:46.300 – 00:100:46.900] Anonymous.

[00:100:46.900 – 00:100:51.700] The AA got a hold of it and he shipped it down to New York screaming.

[00:100:51.700 – 00:100:52.800] He said, “This is terrible.

[00:100:52.800 – 00:100:56.700] It misrepresents AA,” which in its original version it did.

[00:100:56.700 – 00:101:01.300] From our point of view, it was really a stinker roll.

[00:101:01.300 – 00:101:09.200] You know, boy meets girl in AA, they’re both drunks, but instead of AA curing them, love cure them.

[00:101:09.200 – 00:101:12.200] They have a lot of love in AA, but never knew it cured drinking.

[00:101:12.200 – 00:101:17.000] So that wasn’t a very accurate representation.

[00:101:17.000 – 00:101:23.800] Of course, to pass the Hays Office, the picture came out all right because boy loved girl so much in AA.

[00:101:23.800 – 00:101:25.500] I don’t know whether it was in the club room or not.

[00:101:25.500 – 00:101:32.100] Boy loved girl so much that the boy finally went back to his wife and it all ended happily ever after.

[00:101:32.100 – 00:101:37.300] You know, that isn’t just the kind of a picture that would do AA a hell of a lot of good.

[00:101:37.300 – 00:101:41.400] It wasn’t awful, but it, it, it from our point of view it just stunk.

[00:101:41.400 – 00:101:45.800] Well, now that’s what started a year ago in Hollywood.

[00:101:45.800 – 00:101:55.800] You people wouldn’t know that we had on the job one of the best movie agents in New York, and she did the work free because she

[00:101:55.800 – 00:102:01.000] had a father who died of alcoholism and one of her best friends sobered up in AA.

[00:102:01.000 – 00:102:06.900] So we had her services, one of the shrewdest agents in New York, to go to work on that thing.

[00:102:06.900 – 00:102:12.300] We had an immense amount of correspondence with the Paramount company.

[00:102:12.300 – 00:102:19.600] We had AA actors and, uh, other AAs in Hollywood working over that situation.

[00:102:19.600 – 00:102:21.600] We got the Hays Office into it.

[00:102:21.600 – 00:102:24.600] We had a lawyer even threaten lawsuit on it.

[00:102:24.600 – 00:102:34.800] Incidentally, if there are any newspaper reporters here, I wish they wouldn’t feel that I’m criticizing the Paramount company or report this particular part

[00:102:34.800 – 00:102:35.400] of the thing.

[00:102:35.400 – 00:102:37.000] I’m trying to illustrate a point.

[00:102:37.000 – 00:102:44.400] And little by little, the Paramount people came around to our point of view and whittled the thing down and took the title off it, Mr.

[00:102:44.400 – 00:102:44.900] and Mrs.

[00:102:44.900 – 00:102:55.100] Anonymous, so that when you see that picture, you’ll say, “Well, it ain’t too bad.” But if you’d seen it in its original form, you’d have jumped right over the theater

[00:102:55.100 – 00:103:02.700] and said, “Who foisted this on us?” Now, that is the kind of work that’s been going down there for years and years and years.

[00:103:02.700 – 00:103:11.800] A few years back, uh, some AAs in New York started to put out a newspaper called The Grapevine.

[00:103:11.800 – 00:103:14.000] The foundation didn’t have anything to do with it.

[00:103:14.000 – 00:103:15.500] I didn’t have anything to do about it.

[00:103:15.500 – 00:103:19.000] All on its own steam, it got a national circulation.

[00:103:19.000 – 00:103:29.100] So about five years back, having seen the thing made good, I wrote and asked the groups, “Do you wish to make this your principal

[00:103:29.100 – 00:103:34.300] journal of Alcoholics Anonymous?” Almost unanimously, you wrote back and you said yes.

[00:103:34.300 – 00:103:38.600] So therefore, the Grapevine was attached to the foundation.

[00:103:38.600 – 00:103:47.500] So there is your principal mirror of AA thought, which is all the time broadening its usefulness and its pages and opening them up-

[00:103:47.900 – 00:103:49.600] A.A.’s in all parts of the world.

[00:103:49.600 – 00:103:55.000] On its magic carpet, we can fly all over the A.A.

[00:103:55.000 – 00:103:58.900] landscape, look over each other’s shoulders every morning.

[00:103:58.900 – 00:104:09.000] Now, those services have directly and indirectly accounted for about a half

[00:104:09.000 – 00:104:13.700] of the size of Alcoholics Anonymous and a great deal of unity.

[00:104:13.700 – 00:104:19.800] Is it very obvious– is it not obvious that those things should go on?

[00:104:19.800 – 00:104:32.000] And don’t you see that if they break down someday because they’re not tended to or because they’re not supported, that

[00:104:32.000 – 00:104:35.300] the million who don’t know may suffer?

[00:104:35.300 – 00:104:45.500] Supposing that a breakdown took place there and those services failed, and it got into the world press something has gone

[00:104:45.500 – 00:104:46.000] wrong at A.A.

[00:104:46.000 – 00:104:47.000] headquarters.

[00:104:47.000 – 00:104:50.900] What do you think would happen in foreign lands?

[00:104:50.900 – 00:104:51.800] Well, I’ll tell you.

[00:104:51.800 – 00:104:54.300] I was in England last summer.

[00:104:54.300 – 00:104:59.400] Those Britishers are just where we were ten or twelve years ago.

[00:104:59.400 – 00:105:00.900] Sure, they know A.A.

[00:105:00.900 – 00:105:05.400] works over the water, but they still wonder if it isn’t a Yankee gadget.

[00:105:05.400 – 00:105:09.100] Yes, we’ve got a little intergroup in London, two, three hundred members around there.

[00:105:09.100 – 00:105:15.700] But still, only three or four doctors in Great Britain know anything about A.A.

[00:105:15.700 – 00:105:18.000] The press won’t print anything about A.A.

[00:105:18.000 – 00:105:22.100] Only the Financial Chronicle in London run a piece about A.A.

[00:105:22.100 – 00:105:23.100] up till last summer.

[00:105:23.100 – 00:105:27.800] I don’t know why the Financial Chronicle, some British twist of some sort.

[00:105:27.800 – 00:105:33.400] The doctors don’t know anything about it.

[00:105:33.400 – 00:105:35.800] The Church of England don’t care a hoot.

[00:105:35.800 – 00:105:37.800] Okay.

[00:105:37.800 – 00:105:41.500] Supposing that something gets into the world press to the effect that A.A.

[00:105:41.500 – 00:105:43.500] has gone sour at the top over here.

[00:105:43.500 – 00:105:51.900] Don’t you think all the drunks are going to turn their faces to the wall and go on suffering or die?

[00:105:51.900 – 00:105:55.500] Don’t you think the newspapers will continue to clam up?

[00:105:55.500 – 00:105:59.200] Don’t you think the doctors will say it’s a Yankee fad?

[00:105:59.200 – 00:106:02.700] Don’t you think the clergymen will all be looking the other way?

[00:106:02.700 – 00:106:04.900] Will that stop A.A.

[00:106:04.900 – 00:106:05.800] abroad?

[00:106:05.800 – 00:106:06.400] No.

[00:106:06.400 – 00:106:10.100] But it might slow it up for a year.

[00:106:10.100 – 00:106:13.700] It might slow it up five years.

[00:106:13.700 – 00:106:15.400] It might slow it up ten years.

[00:106:15.400 – 00:106:27.300] So I ask each of you seated here tonight, what if Alcoholics Anonymous had been five years too late for you?

[00:106:27.300 – 00:106:35.800] So it is by such illustrations that I urge that these services that Dr.

[00:106:35.800 – 00:106:46.400] Bob and our friends created for you years ago in New York, services for the benefit of the whole that cannot be done separately or regionally,

[00:106:46.400 – 00:106:47.900] that these things go on.

[00:106:47.900 – 00:106:57.300] That you now come to understand what they are, what they mean, what they cost.

[00:106:57.300 – 00:107:00.400] Fortunately, it’s very small business.

[00:107:00.400 – 00:107:06.800] If every drunk in the movement sent us seventy-five cents apiece a year, uh, we’d be on Easy Street.

[00:107:06.800 – 00:107:11.800] Very small business, but very important.

[00:107:11.800 – 00:107:21.900] So then, about four years ago, five years ago, a

[00:107:21.900 – 00:107:32.100] few of us began to realize that these services were still in the hands of a very few people, that they were very remote from you, that

[00:107:32.100 – 00:107:33.500] they were still the function of Dr.

[00:107:33.500 – 00:107:35.600] Bob and me and our friends.

[00:107:35.600 – 00:107:38.900] And when it developed that Dr.

[00:107:38.900 – 00:107:48.900] Bob had cancer, I was horrified to realize that he and I were the principal links between that board of trustees who looks after these

[00:107:48.900 – 00:107:51.500] things and you.

[00:107:51.500 – 00:107:59.300] And that one of those links was going to go out after a while, and then I would be the only remaining link.

[00:107:59.300 – 00:108:03.300] And then when I went out or eloped with a cook or something, then what would happen?

[00:108:03.300 – 00:108:13.700] In other words, if that happens, the first time those fellows made a mistake, the first time this movement had a problem too hot for those trustees

[00:108:13.700 – 00:108:18.500] to handle, you people would wake up and find your business in the hands of strangers.

[00:108:18.500 – 00:108:24.200] And you would say of Smith and me, “Why did they leave things this way?

[00:108:24.200 – 00:108:28.800] Why didn’t they give us a chance to look after our own business?

[00:108:28.800 – 00:108:38.700] Why didn’t they build some links between this board of trustees and us?” And those would have been very good questions.

[00:108:38.700 – 00:108:48.700] So we realized that the services at the top level there in New York for the benefit of the whole, and especially

[00:108:48.700 – 00:108:58.900] of the million who don’t know, would have to be linked directly to you so that your representatives from each state and province of North America

[00:108:58.900 – 00:109:05.200] could come down there and sit down with that board of trustees each year and act as a guide to them.

[00:109:05.200 – 00:109:09.000] People who would be able to come home and say, “Yes, I’ve been there.

[00:109:09.000 – 00:109:09.600] I know.

[00:109:09.600 – 00:109:10.500] I have seen.

[00:109:10.500 – 00:109:12.400] It is worth the money, people.

[00:109:12.400 – 00:109:17.400] Let’s support it.” A cross-section of A.A.

[00:109:17.400 – 00:109:23.600] who could give this movement an opinion about itself, who could advise those trustees.

[00:109:23.600 – 00:109:28.000] In other words, somebody or something who could take the place of Dr.

[00:109:28.000 – 00:109:28.900] Bob and me.

[00:109:28.900 – 00:109:34.700] We realize now that you have grown up.

[00:109:34.700 – 00:109:38.300] You should come into possession of these assets.

[00:109:38.300 – 00:109:48.400] Your money, your book, your public relations, your principal newspaper, your office of mediation and propagation.

[00:109:48.400 – 00:109:51.800] These things should now be turned over to you.

[00:109:51.800 – 00:109:54.400] So Dr.

[00:109:54.400 – 00:110:00.100] Bob and I together prepared something we call the third legacy.

[00:110:00.100 – 00:110:10.200] The legacy of service in general, and in particular, the legacy of those services which cluster around the foundation

[00:110:10.200 – 00:110:10.900] of New York.

[00:110:10.900 – 00:110:16.800] And those services constitute your third legacy.

[00:110:16.800 – 00:110:26.900] And in the opening paragraphs of the third legacy pamphlet, which I expect not many of you have

[00:110:26.900 – 00:110:28.800] seen, Dr.

[00:110:28.800 – 00:110:40.600] Bob and I make you your bequest, and here it is: “We, who are the older members of A.A., bequeath

[00:110:40.600 – 00:110:50.600] to you, who are younger, these three legacies: the Twelve Steps of recovery, the Twelve

[00:110:50.600 – 00:110:55.900] Traditions, and now the general services of Alcoholics Anonymous.

[00:110:55.900 – 00:111:01.700] Two of these legacies have long been in your keeping.

[00:111:01.700 – 00:111:06.100] By the Twelve Steps, we have recovered.

[00:111:06.100 – 00:111:13.500] By the Twelve Traditions, we have achieved a supreme unity.

[00:111:13.500 – 00:111:18.100] Being someday perishable, Dr.

[00:111:18.100 – 00:111:21.100] Bob and I now wish to deliver to the members of A.A.

[00:111:21.100 – 00:111:22.400] their third legacy.

[00:111:22.400 – 00:111:27.600] Since 1938, we and our friends have been holding it in trust.

[00:111:27.600 – 00:111:37.000] This legacy is the general headquarters services of Alcoholics Anonymous: the Foundation, the A.A.

[00:111:37.000 – 00:111:40.900] book, the Grapevine, and the A.A.

[00:111:40.900 – 00:111:42.900] general office.

[00:111:42.900 – 00:111:48.900] These are the principal services which have enabled our society to function and to grow.

[00:111:48.900 – 00:111:54.400] Acting on behalf of all, Dr.

[00:111:54.400 – 00:112:03.900] Bob and I ask that you, the members of A.A., assume guidance of these services and guard them well.

[00:112:03.900 – 00:112:14.500] The future growth, perhaps the very survival of Alcoholics Anonymous, may one day depend

[00:112:14.500 – 00:112:24.600] on how prudently these arms of service are administered in the years to come.” So there, my friends, is your

[00:112:24.600 – 00:112:26.600] third and last legacy.

[00:112:26.600 – 00:112:36.600] So with me, you must now see that our cathedral of the spirit is approaching

[00:112:36.600 – 00:112:37.200] completion.

[00:112:37.200 – 00:112:45.800] On its great floor, you and I can see inscribed the Twelve Steps of recovery.

[00:112:45.800 – 00:112:53.300] Already a hundred thousand are standing there, and may they be joined by millions more.

[00:112:53.300 – 00:113:04.900] You and I have seen its side walls go up, now buttressed by our Twelve Steps of tradition, which

[00:113:04.900 – 00:113:11.600] we hope will contain this beloved society of ours in unity for so long as God may need it.

[00:113:11.600 – 00:113:21.700] And do you now not see that we are affixing the spire to this cathedral, and

[00:113:21.700 – 00:113:32.200] that the spire of our cathedral of the service, uh, of the spirit will be named the Spire of Service, a

[00:113:32.200 – 00:113:34.700] beacon to the million who do not know.

[00:113:34.700 – 00:113:41.700] And may its symbolic finger ever point straight upward toward God.

[00:113:41.700 – 00:113:59.600] Remind

[00:113:59.600 – 00:114:10.400] me something-

[00:111:06.100 – 00:111:13.500] By the Twelve Traditions, we have achieved a supreme unity.

[00:111:13.500 – 00:111:18.100] Being someday perishable, Dr.

[00:111:18.100 – 00:111:21.100] Bob and I now wish to deliver to the members of A.A.

[00:111:21.100 – 00:111:22.400] their third legacy.

[00:111:22.400 – 00:111:27.600] Since 1938, we and our friends have been holding it in trust.

[00:111:27.600 – 00:111:37.000] This legacy is the general headquarters services of Alcoholics Anonymous: the Foundation, the A.A.

[00:111:37.000 – 00:111:40.900] book, the Grapevine, and the A.A.

[00:111:40.900 – 00:111:42.900] general office.

[00:111:42.900 – 00:111:48.900] These are the principal services which have enabled our society to function and to grow.

[00:111:48.900 – 00:111:54.400] Acting on behalf of all, Dr.

[00:111:54.400 – 00:112:03.900] Bob and I ask that you, the members of A.A., assume guidance of these services and guard them well.

[00:112:03.900 – 00:112:14.500] The future growth, perhaps the very survival of Alcoholics Anonymous, may one day depend

[00:112:14.500 – 00:112:24.600] on how prudently these arms of service are administered in the years to come.” So there, my friends, is your

[00:112:24.600 – 00:112:26.600] third and last legacy.

[00:112:26.600 – 00:112:36.600] So with me, you must now see that our cathedral of the spirit is approaching

[00:112:36.600 – 00:112:37.200] completion.

[00:112:37.200 – 00:112:45.800] On its great floor, you and I can see inscribed the Twelve Steps of recovery.

[00:112:45.800 – 00:112:53.300] Already a hundred thousand are standing there, and may they be joined by millions more.

[00:112:53.300 – 00:113:04.900] You and I have seen its side walls go up, now buttressed by our Twelve Steps of tradition, which

[00:113:04.900 – 00:113:11.600] we hope will contain this beloved society of ours in unity for so long as God may need it.

[00:113:11.600 – 00:113:21.700] And do you now not see that we are affixing the spire to this cathedral, and

[00:113:21.700 – 00:113:32.200] that the spire of our cathedral of the service, uh, of the spirit will be named the Spire of Service, a

[00:113:32.200 – 00:113:34.700] beacon to the million who do not know.

[00:113:34.700 – 00:113:41.700] And may its symbolic finger ever point straight upward toward God.

[00:113:41.700 – 00:113:59.600] Remind

[00:113:59.600 – 00:114:10.400] me something-

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